Ep 345 Messages from the Other Side: Spirit Baby Communication With Anne-Claire Le Bihan
On today’s episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, I am joined by spirit baby medium Anne-Claire Le Bihan @anneclairelebihan, who guides women in connecting with the souls of their future children. With a background in midwifery and naturopathy, Anne-Claire shares how her own pregnancy journey awakened her intuitive abilities and led her to support women experiencing unexplained infertility.
Together, we dive into the messages spirit babies want to share, why they might delay incarnating, and how making space emotionally, spiritually, and even physicalyl, can open the path to conception. Anne-Claire offers practical tools for tuning into these messages, from meditation and journaling to setting intentions before sleep.
Whether you're struggling to conceive, feeling called to connect spiritually with your future child, or simply open to a deeper perspective on fertility, this episode offers a beautiful blend of soul, surrender, and hope.
Key Takeaways:
Making space—mentally, emotionally, and physically—is essential for welcoming in new life.
Guest Bio:
Anne-Claire Le Bihan @anneclairelebihan is a Spirit Baby Medium and Spiritual Fertility Guide who has helped hundreds of women around the world connect with their Spirit Babies and bring their dreams of motherhood to life. Through her Bring Your Spirit Baby Home program, private sessions, and meditations, Anne-Claire guides women to clear emotional and energetic blocks, deepen their trust, and align their body, mind, and spirit for conception. Blending intuition with grounded spiritual tools, her mission is to empower women to feel supported, connected, and truly held on their journey to motherhood.
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Michelle Oravitz: Welcome to the podcast and Claire.
Anne-Claire: Thank you for having me, Michelle. Really nice to be here today.
Michelle Oravitz: So before we got started, we had some kind of technical difficulty and I, I have to say, it made me think about like a, a spirit communication where. Where one per when the spirit can see you and you can't see the spirit. And that [00:02:00] was basically what was happening. And I feel like it was like an interesting thing to kind of start with because that's really what you do is you can.
Connect with something that other people cannot see, but is able to see people. So it's kind of like the spirit baby is trying to communicate with the future parent, but the future parent does not have that easy or obvious communication. So
Anne-Claire: Yeah, exactly.
Michelle Oravitz: very symbolic of what we're gonna talk about.
Before we do get started, I would love for you to introduce yourself and give us. A background on how you really got into doing this work.
Anne-Claire: Yeah. Yeah, so my name is an Claire and I'm originally from France, but right now I've been in Vancouver, Canada for like six year approximately, and that's when I arrived in Canada that I started to practice as a street baby, medium. And, and through the years and whoever came to me, it ended up towards more [00:03:00] actually women who are trying to conceive.
I've also spotted women who are pregnant or during the birth process, but I'd say the majority of that whoever is coming to me or who is been sent to me, a woman who've been trying to conceive for a while, and I'll help them connect with the soul of their babies before they come outside.
Michelle Oravitz: That's so cool to me. I always thought it was really intriguing and it's really similar to, it's the same thing as really connecting with people who have passed. It's just kind of like, the direction of where the souls go. So it's either they left from here or they're coming to here, but they're still on the other side.
And I will say, and this is like my own anecdotal experience, I have seen insanely accurate, messages and signs that my patients would get. From their spirit babies once they opened up. And I think there is a level of opening up because as soon as you ask [00:04:00] and you show that you're open, those signs do actually come in and it's, it's really crazy because they were very like, you can't even explain away what happened.
It was so accurate and so specific, and the signs were so like detailed that it was insane.
Anne-Claire: Oh, I love that your clients, like you've noticed that in your client. It's.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah, so, so talk to us about that really, like, what are spirit babies and how, like how did you figure out that you can connect with it? Like what were some of the signs that you got that you were able to really get intuitive and connect with that energy?
Anne-Claire: Yeah, so I mean, I love the description you give because that's often what I said. It's like, you know, lot of people, they're aware of the fact that you can communicate with people who passed away and it's kind of the same, just a different, channel or different connection, but it's kind of like the [00:05:00] same, just connecting to the soul before they come.
So it's basically based on the belief that we all have a soul and that when we pass the soul, keep on living and basically before we can it, some of the soul are coming back. Sometime it's new soul, sometime it, so that already came and we can connect with them. Usually it's contract that have been made between the parents and the.
Like long, long, even sometime you even born yourself so you can usually connect and see which baby are around you Quite early on in the process and the way it came to me, I mean, there is lot of, there have been, it's not like just one thing. It's been accumulation of, of lot of different, I would say anecdotal experiences, but I'd say they're more, they find me rather than me finding them.
And yeah, it's, I mean, long story short, like it's, I was in Medi Medical School and then I got, I didn't get into, actually, I. The way it is in France, you [00:06:00] have to do a few years and get, you either enter the medical school or you can get dentist or midwifery, and I got into midwifery and that's what I started to be in contact with a lot of baby and birth and, and it just started to come in my dreams.
That was kind of like the first time that they really started to come, and that was more like generic and then later on. They started to come for like my own speed, baby started to visit me and, and then I got pregnant. So the very, the big shift when in 2019 when I got pregnant, I really had like very, very, very strong and vivid dream and me said that I needed to help women to connect with their babies.
And and it was so strong that it's almost like I couldn't do anything else than just following that. I lost that baby at around 11 weeks. And for me it was like kind of a way to honor their life. It's like, you know, it's like, okay, they [00:07:00] came. That was one of the reason and I need to do something with that.
And that's when I just started to, to just offer that, and it just grew from there.
Michelle Oravitz: That's so fascinating. It's so interesting to me because, well, first of all, I'm a believer that we have so much more power as humans, and that there's so much more magic than meets the eye. Just because our eyes don't see it or hear ears don't hear it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I think that we get so reli relied kind of in mainstream on our senses, and we know for a fact that our senses can only pick up on certain things.
Just like animals have their senses and sometimes they crosses over where they're able to sense things that we don't sense. So just because our senses don't. Don't understand it or don't see it and don't connect with it, doesn't mean that other things don't exist. So to me it's always really been fascinating and it's also like there's this wisdom [00:08:00] and that we can really connect with.
It's not just, you know, the energies, but there's a wisdom and sometimes even messages that they have for us. So I would love to talk about that, like. What are some of the messages you've gotten and what are some of the, sort of the teachings that you feel like maybe they're trying to communicate?
Anne-Claire: Yeah. it's funny, it's very different for each person, but at the same time, there is a lot of message and commonality that keep coming back. So the way I work is, I mean one of the ways when I do one-on-ones, like the woman comes and then I open the channel and we connect with that whoever baby is there and we see what they have to share.
like, I always. allow for the woman to receive the message as well, so they have the ability to also get some information. And I also receive some, and then we cross compare if, if we both receive information. And there is sometime babies that are very specific. Reason for why there hasn't come.
So [00:09:00] yeah, just for context, most of women have been trying to conceive for a while. A lot of them is like unexplained fertility and they're not really understanding what's going on. So sometime through talking with a baby, there is a reason that is on the baby side. Maybe they have some fear, you know, that I. they're just scared of just incarnating and what that just coming on earth and coming in a physical body and sometime it's a past life connection as well with the moms and healing that need to happen. I. Sometime it will be, you know, parents are very set on like having a boy, but the baby that is there is actually a girl.
So she's like, I'm not gonna come because I feed my parents. That's not what they want. So there is a lot of little stories like that that I see. But that being said, it's very interesting 'cause it's not the majority of what's going on. So that I've definitely, all of those stories I shared, I've seen them and way more, but I would say the common message that I see very often.
Is especially those [00:10:00] women that find spirit, baby and then that find me. I feel there is like a, they call on a spiritual journey and like personal development journey, which is often like one of the first messages. Like you don't have to do that much. Like you can just be and relax. And I know it might sound. You know, they've heard that a lot of like relax and, but the way it comes from the street baby, it land on the mom very differently that they actually, they get it. And often what I said is the street babies come in their life to take them on a spiritual journey and spiritual growth. Often, especially when there is nothing, you know, and it's like they've done all the tests, they've tried everything and nothing is explained.
I often compare it to. Know those stories of people who have like very traumatic let's say car accident or cancer, and they [00:11:00] just use that as like a life, it's like awakening for them and then they change something in their life. That's often what I see. It's like. The women so want the baby. It's like so deep and so close to their hearts that they'll do anything for them to, to change.
They'll do anything for them to come. And so if they're invited to take more on a spiritual path, then often they'll take it.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah, it's really fascinating. I mean, I think it's like that in everything. You know, I work in the world of fertility, so this is that topic that we speak about, but the topic can shift and change and you can insert another topic, and it's still this same, I guess, human. Challenges that we have, which is when we desire something.
I think Buddha taught about this like thousands of years ago about how we desire, you know, and how desire in a certain circumstance can make us suffer. And it's because [00:12:00] we're trying to shift or change what is right now and what's interesting and, and it's such a crazy, like irony, I guess, of how it works.
But it's the letting go that actually brings it closer. It's confusing and it's heartbreaking and it's difficult to accept, but it's the truth and I see it also how it is depicted in the Chinese medicine and the body and the qi that which we resist. Whatever we will resist will cause more stagnation.
And when we allow ourselves even to feel difficult emotions when we allow it to move through us, then we have more flow on the other side of it. Is a feeling of weightlessness.
Anne-Claire: Yeah, and, and there is a lot, I mean, as everything you mentioned, that's the thing is that. I believe there is also physical things that need to happen. It's like I'm focused, I choose, like I'm also trained as a naturopath, so I have all that knowledge, but I just, I've [00:13:00] noticed there were lack when it come to the energetic and spiritual side of conception.
But all the rest is also important and also need to happen. But the thing is, women that come to me. Often they've done all of this. They, they've seen the, they've seen the acupuncture, they've done, they've seen the naturopaths, they've changed their diet. They're taking the supplements, and then they're like, what's going on?
Michelle Oravitz: What else? Yeah, that's always the, what else? And I find a lot of interesting things also with the nervous system. And I think the nervous system really, I mean, if you wanna like kind of use one word for it, it's information and it, it communicates, it's basically communication pathway. It's electricity that goes through your body.
When that is clear and when that is regulated, you're also more in tune with your intuition. You're also more in tune with your body and what your body needs, whether that is food or other things as well. And so I find that, that when it's regulated, we can be in a [00:14:00] state of more trust and receivership.
Anne-Claire: Yeah, definitely. And I mean, exactly. It's like if you are in like survival mode, it's like it's buzzing inside of you, so it's difficult to hear anything and even to connect with your baby or to connect with your body or, and, and this is definitely one of the steps. It's like, how can I quiet my mind? How can I re. As they say, like not stress. And that's another thing, you know, they don't like to hear about that, but that's, that's goal in nervous system. Like how can I get more, ah, there's more space, you know?
Michelle Oravitz: Safe you when you feel safe. And I think that that's actually what a lot of people are craving. They're craving a feeling of safety.
Anne-Claire: yeah, definitely. And.
Michelle Oravitz: Because being in this situation, you know, there's a lot of fight or flight because you're getting numbers and all kinds of information overload, you know?
Anne-Claire: And what's happening with when? You know, the, as I said in the [00:15:00] work I do, there is different layers. But one of the first layer is, you know, when you've been on that journey for so long and you've tried so much, you reach a point where. You kind of almost lose open and question, you know, is it really the past?
Should I really keep going into that? And, and I found just knowing and just having even a sense that their baby is there and receiving even just a few message, it's doing something in them that it's like. Okay. I'm not doing it wrong. I'm not, you know, taking the wrong path and it just help them to have hope again and be more peaceful and just keep going on that journey because it is, for some woman, a very long journey.
And it's require as well, you know, some, it's like almost reinsurance that they're doing the right thing, even if there's no right or wrong, but.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah. That they're on the path for a reason. I think that [00:16:00] that also is another thing, like I personally believe because I've been doing this for a long time, and I think after a while you start to see patterns and I feel like there's a calling for a reason. I. There's a reason for it. It's not random that they have this calling within their heart and ultimately a lot like, it's funny 'cause I had one patient ask me, do the majority of your patients get pregnant?
Eventually they do. Actually the majority do. There's a small percentage that don't and they choose other ways, but even those other ways can be meant to be, even though they weren't the initial path that people imagine.
Anne-Claire: Yeah. And, and that's what's interesting is that, you know, I had people shifting past you know, going through adoption or just like reaching a point where they're at peace with not having children. But I find that on the other side, whatever happened, I. They, there might be a a time where it's been a lot of grieving and it has been [00:17:00] challenging, but they're like, oh, that's exactly how it was meant to be.
Michelle Oravitz: Mm-hmm.
Anne-Claire: There's
Michelle Oravitz: that's powerful.
Anne-Claire: yeah. But often what I say is it's in the work we're doing is like sometime you need quite a few years to be able to know as well, you know, what's going to unfold and how for people 'cause even the conception journey, you know, it's like you get pregnant then it's nine months and then so it's often takes a few years to know, okay, what's happening for those, those clients.
But but yeah, I've. I definitely I love what you're doing because it's also very holistic and it's like looking at like, okay, from different angle and how can we become, what I say is like more aligned, you know, body, mind, and spirit. How can we align fully than then your baby can join and come in this lifetime with you.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah, and I find that what's interesting is that, like you said, you know, everybody comes to you when they've tried everything else, and what happens is because. Kind of the [00:18:00] spiritual aspect is so difficult and you know, it's not as tangible. It's not something that you can hold and look at. It's something that can only really truly be felt.
And ultimately you need silence and you need peace and quiet in order to truly feel that and connect with it. And how often do we do that in modern daytime? Like how often do we really get that opportunity? To get quiet. And that's one of the reasons why I tell a lot of my patients and I'm like a nagging mom to my patients.
You gotta meditate. You gotta meditate. And, and sometimes it takes them like months and then they finally do. And when they finally get to, it's kind of like starting the gym. You resist at first. You don't really feel it going to work out, but you just do. You push yourself until it starts to feel good and then you become addicted.
And ultimately that's that's the aspect that I find is often missed on the fertility journey. It's that [00:19:00] mindset. It's that connecting with your spirit, connecting with that intuition and that intelligence. And when people do, and this is before baby, you know, because there's this preconceived assumption that you're gonna have to suffer.
But when they do connect with spirit and they do get quiet, not only do they connect with their intuition, but they also feel more peace.
Anne-Claire: Oh yeah, definitely. It, it's interesting that you're sharing that because so the way I support women through fertility is like a 12 week journey. And this, the first session we do is how to make space. It might sound when you're like, oh, it's easy. But then we really dive into, okay, what does that mean to make space, you know, make space for yourself, make space for in your schedule in your house.
And, and I was like, I tell them it's like we can't do anything until we've done that. And space in your mind, you know, it's like, and how does it look for. Every person would be different. Some it would be, I need space in my body, you know, to maybe shift the way I'm, I'm [00:20:00] eating and feel more spacious.
And some is like a lot actually, the, the, there's a need as you mentioned in the mind of like, I. How can we re either rephrase that thing that it's keep going on and on. Like, am I get, I'm getting too old, I don't know if it's gonna happen or is there doubt? And and the creating space is, is very important because I feel that's the number one piece to do to a lot.
Like, first, it's like often what I say is like, if you want new friends. How can you get new friends if you don't create space for those people? You know, if you don't make the time for them, if you don't make the time to, to check on them and, and it's the same for your baby. It's like you need to, it, there need to be space in your life for a baby to come.
And if there is already not space for you to take care of yourself, like how does, can a baby come.
Michelle Oravitz: And it also impacts your body if you're not giving yourself that space. When you give yourself that space, you can get more [00:21:00] into a balanced state, because right now with all the information that's being loaded on us, and we don't really have much time for space.
Anne-Claire: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, but sometime it can start very easily, you know, for me, I said it's like even five minutes, you know, do five minutes of breathing
and it's just like you are with your breath. And that's it. And yesterday I had a client, she already has as a daughter and I was telling her, okay, you are very busy.
And I, and I get it, how about you even just be, try to be even more in the present moment with her, because often we, you know, we doing something but we thinking of the next things or, or something else. And it's like, how about when you play with her? You just play with her. And when you know, when, I don't know, when you clean the dishes, we just clean the dishes.
Like bringing mindfulness, it's not adding. To your life is just shifting the way you are, you are doing,
Michelle Oravitz: I love that reframe. [00:22:00] And it's true. It's just small things and ultimately it actually creates more time because when you're feeling more peace, I. And you do have that like sense of space and not feeling as overwhelmed, you're much more productive.
Anne-Claire: Oh yeah, definitely. And often also I find something that I notice a lot is, you know, because of the society we in and it's very, in a way, it's very, very masculine, very doing very success, very. Goal oriented and, and also as women, we decided with that we want to work, we want to be successful, we want to earn good money.
Like all of that. But I found a lot of my clients then end up in like the doing, doing, doing very masculine was when you want to conceive, my belief is to come back to the feminine and to the being because the masculine is very outwards and it's very, it's a lot, it's like busy. Whereas the feminine is like, okay, I'm more open.
And being, and then by being [00:23:00] more open, then it's easier for the conception to happen and the baby to come.
Michelle Oravitz: Well, that's the yin and the yang. I a hundred percent. And we're very much in a yang state, which can burn us out. It could burn out the yin, which is really the seed, and getting back into the yin, you know, harmonizes that, and ultimately that's what the egg does it. So there's two ways of getting things.
You can run after it or you can call it in. There's just two ways. So sometimes calling it in is way more powerful, or maybe that's really what is. The best way at the moment.
Anne-Claire: Yeah. And it's always, you know, going back, you know, as you mentioned, the y and the young, if we, from in like the way it is, like it's a balance. It's like you, you need both. It's like you can. You know, you, you, you can't just like sit at home and being like, oh, okay, I'm meditate, I manifest, I'm calling my baby.
And that's it, you know, not, and eating junk food and [00:24:00] watching movie all day and like, you know, it's, it's a balance. But I find, and it's probably the same situation in yours, I, the, when the state of, when they, at least for me, when they reach for help, they. They've done a lot of the yang, and it's like, how can we bring in more of the yin in and then rebalance that?
Because oh, I'm doing the, I'm going to this, I'm seeing that practitioner, that practitioner, but then it's almost become a to-do list of practitioner was, or originally the, let's say I'm going for a massage, originally supposed to help you relax, but then it's becoming of like to-do, to make it happen.
So they lose sometimes the purpose of it.
Michelle Oravitz: Sometimes the same thing with intimacy with your partner. It's the same thing. It's becoming like a means to an end rather than that really initial connection that you had and that spark in the magic, which also helps with conception.
Anne-Claire: Yeah. Yeah. It's def it's a multifaceted But I'd say what we were saying is like [00:25:00] going back to yourself and really being able to hear what's happening, and then I. Like in, in my work, I said, just being aware that your baby's around and is also helping you in that. You know, it's not just all on you.
It's like, it's like it's you with your baby, with your partner, and
Michelle Oravitz: Well, I actually great timing because I was gonna mention one of my patients, she also connected with her spare baby. This was secondary in fertility for years, and to the point where she was just like, I think I'm done. I'm, I'm not sure. And she was coming to me for a year and. She had talked to a spirit baby, medium, and she had talked about the fact that the husband in some way because of what they went through with the losses after the first child, you know, miscarriages, he was kind of shutting down and she said, you know, your husband needs to be.
More open or make [00:26:00] kind of, come to terms with what happened. And interestingly enough, he was going through his own thing and I think that he had to really open up, but it was pretty wild because right after that, like a couple months after she got pregnant and she kept the baby and she had the baby,
Anne-Claire: Yeah, no, definitely. That's the thing. Women tend to thank everything on themself, but it's, it's bigger. It's like, yeah. It's like the partner. If you have already children, it's also, you know. Sometime I, I ask, you know, I ask them, those who, who've been trying with a, a second and I'm like, okay, let's say you would've been pregnant the first time, you know, and your youngest was maybe one.
Do you feel it would've been the best for your, for your youngest? Like, how do you feel? And often they, they, they realize that, oh, actually no, it probably maybe wasn't the right timing for them, but they never even think of that, that they think it's all on them. And, but it's, it's all dynamic, you know, it's. [00:27:00] It's where you are sometime even in your business, it's like, where are you at financially? It's like, there is different element, but I think sometime it's, it's good for the mom to be able to realize that if it's not happening, it's not just, it's not first, it's not because of at all. And and there is different layer to, to it.
And, and I love the, the story that you shared because Yeah. I've seen that sometimes it's the, the, the data. They also need to be maybe more.
Or just more. Maybe it needs to be expressed that, okay, I do want one, because sometimes, you know, when you try it for a long time, there's disconnection that can happen.
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah, absolutely. And there was an interesting story that my recent guest had shared. I think it was the last episode I recorded, and she's a friend of mine who teaches yoga. Susan Singer. And she ha it was just insane. She went through the fertility journey [00:28:00] and went through IVF and it wasn't working for many years.
And finally she did get pregnant and she always used to have one code, one specific code that she would always put. I. As her pin, but it was very random, like it was just a pin she decided on. And when her baby was supposed to be born, they actually induced her a week before the due date. And when she had the baby, she didn't even think about this, but she had the baby and then she sees on the chalkboard or there was like a, a chart in front of her with the date of birth of the baby, and that was The number the
number that she's always in the past. And just to think about like, I mean, thou like, this is years and years and years and years of of, of going through this and thinking, oh, I want it, and why can't it happen? And, and all this time it was like meant to be in the exact moment
that had
Anne-Claire: Yeah. Oh, I love that story. [00:29:00] That's super cool.
Michelle Oravitz: It's insane. I was like, I mean it's just, it's so poetic and it's just such an example of that and I think that it was just, I think it's going to land for a lot of people because it's so powerful.
Anne-Claire: Yeah, because as we, you know, we mentioned it's, I mean, it's exactly an, an example. It is like the baby. They also choose when they want to be born, you know, and, and sometimes some of my clients, I was like, you know, they tried to conceive during COVID and I was like, no, maybe your baby didn't want to come during COVID time as well.
You know, it's like with everything which was involved, like there, there is, I often say that we underst we have a better understanding on our journey and it's difficult to to accept, but when we are on the other side, but often when we are on the other side, everything. It makes sense. Like I have a client that she tried to conceive for 10 years.
10 years, like, I think she said like 20, 20 plus round of ideas. Like something like a lot five or [00:30:00] six miscarriage a lot. So she's like, I'm grateful that I was able to keep doing, you know, also financially, but but it was, it was a lot. And now she, she has a daughter. A daughter just turned one.
She's working with me for the second, but when, when, you know, when she, she came to me you know, it, it was a lot that she was, she came to me before she was pregnant for the first, the first one, and it was a lot to carry. But now looking back, it's like she said, I can be a mom, a very different mom because I'm a different place with my business.
I'm a, like, there's so many things that are different that. She's like, she's very grateful at that it happened the way it is, even if it was a difficult journey. And also, I, I, I have a sense that down the road she's probably gonna step up and help some women that are also going through similar journey.
So it's, it's difficult in the moment, definitely. But I've, they always have the woman, you know, when [00:31:00] they're their baby. They, they're grateful for the journey and they understand better as well why it didn't happen earlier.
Michelle Oravitz: Yes, that always is the case. I've never had anybody go through it. And say they would change anything about it
after the fact. They would say like, I don't care if it was like so many years, I'm still happy it happened just the way it happened because I wouldn't get that perfect genetic makeup that would give me my child today.
And I mean, there's so many but it, you know, when you're in it, it's like anything. I think that one of the biggest fears that we have as humans is the unknown and not knowing how things are gonna work out. And it's very hard when you want something so badly. To not know how it's gonna turn out and to not know if you're, all of the energy and time that you're putting in is for nothing because at the time when you're going through it, it feels that way.
Anne-Claire: Yeah, you were asking me earlier, you know what some common message, and there is one actually that is [00:32:00] very strong, is the baby want their mom to be happy. That's, that's a very big one. And it sounds like very silly and very simple, but it's actually a very big one. And often, you know, when we talk about like when you, I even felt it when it's like, you know, when you want it so bad and you're really trying, you know, it's very, this energy of like, it's contracting because you know, when you try hard, it's like you are trying to make it happen.
And what we talked before, it's that this itself can. Unfortunately just that block the process and, and we want to open more and a way to do it. Often what I recommend is what can you do for yourself? What, what bring you joy? What were you used to do with your partner on your own that maybe you're not doing anymore, and that you can introduce a little bit more to.
Reach more place basically where you are happy because that's what your baby wants ultimately. And when you prioritize yourself and what bring you joy, [00:33:00] then it's easier also for the baby to to come.
Michelle Oravitz: That makes perfect sense. I often talk about working on the heart space because the heart actually plays a very important role on fertility and our emotional wellbeing. It plays a really important role on our uterus, literally, and the energetics of that and the energetics of our body. And, and when we do have really difficult, heavy emotions, it can impact even our menstrual cycle.
So this is like, we see that in Chinese medicine. It really does impact your body and your hormones, and I often compare this to, because it's not really just us and that's why it's. One of the things in life that we just cannot fully have in our hands. It's not fully in our hands, it's in our hands. And it's a co-creation of sorts really.
And the same thing can be compared to when you're meeting a person that you're gonna end up marrying or a partner. You cannot force that [00:34:00] relationship. You cannot make it happen. You cannot say, that's the person and, and I'm taking it. No, you have to invite it in and you have to be there and you have to allow sort of the will of the other aspect, the other party to come in
at
Anne-Claire: Yeah. Definitely. Now I love this analogy with the partner. That's often what I say. Also, it's like, you know, everyone has different stories, like when they met their, their partner, but some are very long, some are short, some are challenging, and some are, it's like, and it's sometime. It's like it makes sense that it's a little bit the same with having a baby in my opinion, but we so used to things being, you know, you order on Amazon and is
deliveries the following day that we think, yeah, I mean sometimes I'm definitely like that and it's like.
So then I, so many time of like, oh, I thought when I would be ready to have my baby. Then it'll come and they're like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm okay if it's take few months, but they think I'm ready, so it [00:35:00] should be coming. But it's the same of like, when you were ready to meet your partner, did your partner just suddenly appear or did it take whatever roads it it took for you? And it's like, could you, you can't, as you said, it's like you can't force someone to be your partner. It's like you have to let it happen. And same when you look who you end with and when you end up with, you're like, oh, that was exactly the right person, at exactly the right time. And it's a little the same.
I see the same way with your spirit, baby. It's like they're gonna come, they're here, but there is a lot of things that need to align for them to come and. We don't have control of it, and I think that's a challenging part for, for us as human.
Michelle Oravitz: I think there's the, the one word that comes to mind is trust. In order to co-create, you have to trust. You can't because you can't, you're not doing it yourself. So you have to trust. You have to give forth trust [00:36:00] in order for that co-creation. 'cause there's another element to this.
Anne-Claire: Yeah. Trust and face are always what I, what I say as well. It's like you, it's like, do you believe your body can do it? And, and do you have faced that this baby will come? And, and that's, that's the part sometime that, that is lost I find on the journey. And that's why often when they, they connect with their baby and they, they feel it, then it's reignite that or make it a little stronger.
Michelle Oravitz: And are there any, like, I mean, you've shared a lot of great things, but like any parting words, anything that specifically, if people are listening to this, you would really want them to hear?
Anne-Claire: I didn't hear the full question. Sorry.
Michelle Oravitz: Oh, if there's anything that you'd really want somebody listening to this to hear, is there like a parting message, something that you really feel strongly about?
Anne-Claire: Oh yeah, [00:37:00] they're doing great. They're doing amazing. Like for me, that's the, to remind them that, for, in my opinion, they're already your mom. They are, you know, even if their, their baby's not her side, they're already your mom. They, I mean, I. It's like, look, everything you're doing, it's like you're doing, you are almost doing so much.
Like if your baby was already there, you are, you are caring so much. You're loving so much. So for me, they're already your mom. And then the other thing is really to be gentle with themself like, and it's one step at a time, one day at a time, they will be some up and low and it's gonna be sideways and just to. Just go back of like their why, like why did they wanna baby in the first place, you know, when it's difficult and they doubting, just reconnect to that in a in a why. So yeah, you are already a mom. You are doing amazing. Vito is yourself, and, and it will happen. I really believe it will happen.
Michelle Oravitz: That's powerful. And then one last [00:38:00] question actually. If people want to connect with their spirit babies and are listening to this and say, okay, like how can I connect with my spirit, baby? What should I do? What would you suggest?
Anne-Claire: On
their own. Yeah. So there is different way to do it actually. I mean, they, I created a guided meditation for free to connect with your spirit, baby. So that's often I find a, a good first step to just try to just, it's like I guide you through different step to invite your spirit, baby. So that's often the first one through meditation.
The other way to do it is journaling, so what we call intuitive writing where you just kind of write and then open the channel to. See what's coming. And for that often I recommend to either do meditation before, like any type of meditation or do some exercise or just write on paper everything you have in your mind.
The idea is to clear your mind, to be more [00:39:00] receptive because if you jumping right away into trying to receive a message, but you were like. Talking with someone or doing the dishes or like working right before, it's gonna be difficult. So have a practice before that. So yeah, meditation, spirit, baby meditation, journaling, asking for a sign.
You know, we talked about, it's like, can you show me a sign and, and just be open. The other way is through dreams. So before you go to bed, setting the intention of like opening the invitation for your baby to come through your dreams, this one is very powerful when it happen. But you have to know it can take time.
You know, it might take few months before they visit you once it's not like a magic recipe, but it's like just even like talking to them, you know, even if you can't eat anything, just being aware that they're around and they exist and just. This is a first step and then when you do that, then you'll see actually even with asking sign, you might see sign [00:40:00] or unless someone tell you about something.
So that's probably would be the the different ways that I would suggest
Michelle Oravitz: It's so interesting how I'm going back to full circle. When we first started the call for maybe like 30 minutes. And Claire was on the line and she kept coming back in and all I can see was black and I can't hear anything. And she keeps saying the same thing on the chat. I can see you and I can hear you.
Anne-Claire: Oh yeah, that was,
Michelle Oravitz: And I'm like, and that is to me, that was I, I was like, okay, spirit's messing with us. Like this is what. They're trying to say, they're trying to say that, and I, and I'm like, if, I mean that, if that's not a sign,
Anne-Claire: oh no, but
definitely, I mean, I.
Michelle Oravitz: is,
Anne-Claire: Goose, when you say and.
Michelle Oravitz: I mean, and I was like, okay, okay, there's a reason why this is happening. I'm like, there's got, you know, and it's [00:41:00] like, I could have gotten, okay, so it was 30 minutes and I was like, okay, we gotta get started. But I wasn't, I felt peaceful. I was like, I wasn't impatient. I'm like, okay, it's gonna happen. It's, we're gonna figure this out somehow.
And I wasn't feeling impatient and I wasn't feeling like rushed. And to me that was the whole thing was so symbolic of the journey and how we can feel, but then also acknowledging the fact that like, yeah, there's this consciousness that is fully aware of you and not, not in a creepy way, but like can see you and can hear you, and all you have to do is just speak.
Anne-Claire: Yeah, I mean, 100%. I, I think that's a great example that you say like the black screen and, and the ear. It's like, and that's often the case, you know, at the beginning. I mean, a lot of women do the meditation and they do something happen, like even just the sensational color, but some days nothing. [00:42:00] But they just feel better.
They say, oh, I feel more calm, I feel, so just that feeling, you know, it's like
even if. It's, it's something. And then they go back and what I always said is that some. I really believe if you've been on a journey for a long time, there is a baby and there is a reason. So I wouldn't really question is there a speed baby out there out?
'cause that's often time the question I got for me is like, yes, there is. And then some women, it's easier for them to communicate than others. That's also where they, they come and, you know, someone like me will, will help facilitate the, the communication. But it's like. As we said, it's like if we, you talk and share, they, they will receive the message even if you don't hear back.
And it's, it's a difficult trust to have,
but know, it's, what do you have to lose anyway? It's like, It's
why
Michelle Oravitz: literally literally that was the thought that I had. I'm like, this is exactly what it's like to connect [00:43:00] with your spirit, baby. I'm like, she sees me and hears me and I'm just sitting here like I can't say anything. And so it's pretty wild. So I know that you work with people. If people were to listen to this and really connect with your message and wanna find you, how can they find you?
Anne-Claire: So the best way Rhino is on my website, which is with my full name. Would you put the link under or
Michelle Oravitz: Yeah, I'm gonna put the link, I'm gonna put the, I think you already sent
it,
Anne-Claire: Yeah, so it's, it's my full name. I'm clearly beyond.com. And and the way, actually, the, the way I'm doing right now, there is one-on-one option of communication, but I find that it was a lot more powerful to come together as a small group of women.
So that's the, the main program I do is called Bring Your Sweet Baby Home. And, it's like an intimate group of women coming together. And I take them on a journey where it's like we don't exactly know where it's gonna go. I just know that on the other side, everyone feels [00:44:00] definitely more at peace, at trust.
They're feeling calm and they. They really have the deep knowing that their baby's coming and they let go of like how and when. I don't know. I can't really explain even how it happened, but it always happened. That's I can guarantee and, and yeah. Obviously some of them get pregnant, but as you mentioned, you can't, I.
It's not something you can, we can promise, but that's the best way on my website and I always love to meet people. So even if you're not ready to book anything, just, you know, send me a a note and the meditation will also be available on my website. And we can also put the link and you can just try with that and just tell me how it was for you and if you are able to receive anything.
Michelle Oravitz: Awesome. Well, this is such a pleasure. I'm so excited that we got to talk and everything worked out in the end. And thank you so much and Claire for coming on today.
Anne-Claire: Thank you so much. I, I really had a really nice time. It was lovely to see you and the way the time is ticking, we are gonna finish at 44. [00:45:00] 44. Very
interesting.
Michelle Oravitz: And your time. That's amazing. See? Of course, of course. Awesome. Thank you so much.
Anne-Claire: Thank you. Have a nice day.
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