EP 395 How Safety, Stillness, and Conscious Conception Prepare the Body to Receive Life with Oshikha Pandey
In this deeply moving conversation, Michelle sits down with Oshikha Pandey, founder of Merely Mindful and a conscious conception practitioner blending nervous system regulation, breathwork, and Ayurvedic wisdom. Oshikha shares the personal journey that led her to reverse her own PCOS and conceive naturally, and what she learned along the way about the body, the nervous system, and the often-overlooked role of safety in fertility.
Together, they explore why the 90 days before conception (often called the zero trimester) matter so much, how subconscious fear and stored emotion can quietly shape reproductive function, and why doing all the right things on paper sometimes still does not lead to pregnancy. Oshikha brings forward the ancient teaching of Garbh Sanskar, the science behind nervous system coherence, and a grounded approach to preparing the body, mind, and spirit to welcome a child.
This episode is for any woman who has felt like she is doing everything right and still wondering what is missing. It is a reminder that the body is intelligent, that healing the inner environment matters as much as the outer protocols, and that conscious preparation can change everything.
Key Takeaways:
The body opens to conception when it feels safe, not when it feels pressured. Chronic stress and unresolved emotion influence hormones, ovulation, and implantation in tangible ways.
The three to six months before conception (the zero trimester) are a powerful window for egg quality, hormonal balance, and nervous system preparation.
Subconscious patterns, ancestral imprints, and stored emotional pain can quietly shape fertility. Healing these layers is part of the work, not separate from it.
Reversing PCOS and supporting reproductive health benefits from a root-cause approach that integrates lifestyle, somatic regulation, detoxification, and metabolic health.
Coherence between heart, mind, and womb creates the internal environment where the body can receive life. Daily nervous system practices are foundational, not optional.
Women heal best in community. Being witnessed, supported, and held by other women is part of how the body remembers safety.
The womb is a creative center. When you tend to it with reverence rather than urgency, fertility often follows.
Guest Bio:
Oshikha Pandey is the founder of Merely Mindful and a conscious conception practitioner specializing in nervous system regulation, breathwork, and Ayurvedic lifestyle medicine. She works with women who are trying to conceive, especially those navigating PCOS, IVF journeys, miscarriage, or unexplained infertility.
Her work is rooted in a simple but often overlooked truth: the body does not open to conception when it feels under pressure. It opens when it feels safe. Drawing from research in stress physiology alongside traditional systems like Ayurveda and Garbh Sanskar, Oshikha helps women understand how chronic stress, emotional load, and lifestyle patterns can directly influence hormonal balance, ovulation, and reproductive health.
After reversing her own PCOS and conceiving naturally, Oshikha developed a structured approach that combines somatic regulation, detoxification, and emotional healing, supporting women not just in trying harder, but in creating the internal environment where the body can receive life. Her work bridges the gap between clinical fertility care and the deeper mind-body connection, bringing both precision and presence into the journey to motherhood.
Connect with Oshikha:
Website: https://merelymindful.com
Email: oshika@merelymindful.com
Disclaimer: The information shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider before making any changes to your health or fertility care.
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Michelle: Welcome to the podcast, Oshika. I'm so happy to have you on
Oshikha: Thank you so much. It was meant to be is all I can just say and start with. Yeah, yeah
Michelle: So both of us just met for the first time, and we both had an instant recognition, almost like, uh, sisters. It's, uh, unusual that it happens, but sometimes it does, where you just feel like you're speaking to a relative. So it's so cool to have you here. And I'm so curious. I wanna hear all about your path. I know that you recently moved to Europe.
Um, I wanna know all about your path really, and what got you into this incredible work that you're doing.
Oshikha: Thank you so much for having me here. Firstly, I would like to start with and, um, just setting the intention that whoever needs to hear and get [00:01:00] the right wisdom lands on this. What got me here? Maybe I would say lifetimes of work, and maybe this lifetime was a culmination that I had to be here. Just talking about me and this body, Oshika, uh, I'm roughly 35 years old, and I come from a very traumatic past.
Um- So a lot of times our trauma or that deep, dark state that we live in is actually just a portal for a lot of pure liquid gold of transformation that can come through it, right? Um, so yeah, 10 years ago, I f- when I was in that traumatic phase of my life, I was doing... I was thriving, I would say. Uh, however, when I met my husband a decade ago, when my life started softening a bit, all of the dep-depression, trauma, anxiety started bubbling up.
Um, and then I realized that I have, I [00:02:00] had PCOD, I had oversized left ovary, I had recurring UTI, and I also had something called as vaginal warts. So I had like skin type of growth on my vaginal wall. So I had all of this, and somehow I was always very aware of how my blood work is because I always wanted to become a mother.
I was doing everything right, Michelle. I was going to the doctors. I was doing everything that they were saying. I was even doing yoga, meditation, certain kind of relaxation, but nothing was actually shifting anything. I was still in the same state. But the only moment when I realized that, okay, a lot of trauma is still sitting in my body, it is getting triggered by incidents with my husband or my friends or at my work, that I realized that, okay, my body is this temple and everything is interconnected.
It's not that, you know, I can take this in isolation and heal. Only when I started healing my emotions, the [00:03:00] pain that I was carrying, that I was suppressing thinking that it's over, um, is when I started seeing change in my body, in my health, in my being. So it was like a long work of six to seven years.
However, in 2022 was, um... I was on this spiritual acceleration. I was always a very spiritual person. I did my first Vipassana, which is a 11-day silent meditation when I was 17 years old. So my mother thought that I might become a monk or something and I won't marry, which
Michelle: And this was by your choosing, you chose to do that?
Oshikha: Yes, because, uh, there was always this question that where do I come from?
Where is home? Uh, there was this craving in the heart, you know, um-
Michelle: I know exactly what you mean, and this is why we immediately had this recognition
Oshikha: Yeah.
Michelle: I understand
Oshikha: So when I went for my Vipassana, my mother went through a terrible nightmare thinking that, "Okay, [00:04:00] my daughter will become something else." But, um, yeah, so the journey has been long. But in 2022, by this divine guidance of the spirit of my baby, I went on this spiritual accelerated path where for good three, four months, I detoxed my physical body like anything, as if like I was scrubbing, like, my, uh, entire
Michelle: How
Oshikha: How? Good question. So I, for complete one month, I ate only vegetables and fruits. And when I say vegetables and fruits, I did not ev-even eat any salt or any spices, which my Indian tongue kept asking for. I did couple of juice fasts along the way. Um, and then I was-- I detoxed my entire environment. I started learning that all my fancy perfumes had, uh, toxic chemicals, the skincare.
You know, when you start the journey and then you [00:05:00] come to realize that, "Oh my God, everything around me is designed somehow to cause infertility."
Michelle: Mm-hmm
Oshikha: So nothing that I whatever I'm investing in is supporting my fertility? Not at all. So that was like a big shocker to me. And then I started detoxing my skincare, detergent, everything.
You know how it goes, right? So I detoxed my physical environment, my body, my external environment, and I even cut out toxic relationship, friends, you know, who were not aligned. So this is how I detoxed that part of it. And then obviously, because I was on this healing journey of releasing any kind of pain and trauma, deep meditation for hours, you know, creating awareness, creating routines, treating my morning and my evening as sacred and calling in everything to be the woman who was ready to become a mother.[00:06:00]
So it was not just one particular thing that I did, but it was like a whole cohesive journey of aligning my physical body, my mental body, and my spiritual body, and understanding that I had to heal whatever knots I had with my husband as well, right? Um, that we both were sure about the values that we want to embody and we want to give it to our child.
Um, so yeah, whenever I think about it, I feel it was not me who did it. It couldn't be me. It was all guided by the spirit of the baby. Because the baby nudges you, it pushes you, if you have that intuition and if you are ready to listen to it, and if you're ready to accept all the issues you have without having this blame game and just having this awareness that it is okay to do mistakes.
I also had an abortion when I was 21 years old. Um, so releasing all of the shame, [00:07:00] pain, guilt, um, yeah, so a lot of inner work. A lot of
Michelle: Yeah. I see a, I see a lot of it. I mean, every, a lot of what you're talking about in general. And I know that, you know, one thing that struck me when you were talking, it was that you felt that you, a, a realization that you were carrying the trauma, that it was still in your body, and that certain triggers from the outside, whether it was relationships or something would bring it out.
And you would think, and it's so interesting how we think that it's that, what we're looking at that's causing it. We don't realize that it's actually something within us that is dormant and wakes up. Yeah, m- that might be the trigger, but the nature or whatever is in there is, is in our bodies. If we weren't carrying it in our bodies, it wouldn't be triggered.
Oshikha: Yes, because everything around us is just an internal reflection of our own reality, right? Uh, and especially [00:08:00] partnership. Um, the ancient wisdom of India, it says that, uh, your part- you choose your partner subconsciously, someone who will again trigger those childhood wounds. And it is not like you have to fight with them.
It's just this deeper awareness that, okay, this person... firstly, my soul chose this person, right? And this person is, can just accelerate my path if I give into whatever they are scratching on the surface so I can heal, I can massage my wound and grow from it. Um, so yeah, it's just beautiful. But that comes from accepting that nothing is working against you or- It's you are the
Michelle: for you. It's actually working for you
Oshikha: Yeah, yeah. 100%, 100%.
Michelle: I think it takes a little time to get there. I don't think that everybody gets there, but I, I really loved what you were saying. Uh, it really struck me, and I [00:09:00] find that that perspective is so empowering. When you said, you know, these things that happen to us in life that they scrub and it's like this portal of illumination.
I'm not sure exactly what words you used, but I, I feel like it's kind of like the obstacle is the way, that it's there actually to guide us, not hurt us. Our immediate reaction... And, and you know, I've studied the Vedas. Now, I mean, I'm not like a scholar, but I love it. I've always been drawn to Vedic traditions.
I studied Ayurveda. I love-- I just-- There's so much wisdom.
Even the sounds, even the mantras, even the, you know, the vibration. There's something so majestic and magical about the traditions, and it's so rich with wisdom, insane wisdom. So it's something that I've always been really drawn to. And the idea of really like [00:10:00] everything-- One of the things that they say is that everything in life is neutral.
We give it meaning. We choose to give it... You-- And you would talk, we talked in the pre-talk, you were saying my ego self and then kind of like the divine self. We give it meaning and judgment, but it's usually pretty neutral. So it's kind of getting to that state of the neutral to me is kind of the yin and yang and harmony, that balance state where you're able to see things a little more clearly, and then you're able to be guided by that spirit.
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Yes Mm-hmm. 100%. Yeah
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They're beautiful too. Yeah, they're stunning.
Mm. I love [00:13:00] that Yeah. yeah, Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. And I always say the present moment is the antidote because all of those patterns, they live in the subconscious mind. They live without awareness. They thrive without awareness. They're actually expecting us not to be aware in order to stay alive. And as soon as we bring our awareness, it's kind of like the police, you know, like, uh, we're, we're able to catch it.
Oshikha: Yes
Michelle: I think that that's kind of like the freedom. I had a bunch of thoughts, uh, [00:14:00] came-- Uh, they come and go. But it's, but it's really, uh, it's about becoming-- The more aware you become, the more that becomes your default, and then it becomes easier, so you don't almost... You, you don't have to remind yourself all the time.
Sometimes I find myself when I'm in those moments where whether I'm driving or I'm like really on like high alert, then I automatically know how to go into my body. It's, uh, interoception. You start to feel sensations in your body and you breathe into it, and you start to bring yourself back to your body.
And that, um... And so, oh, I was gonna talk to you about actually when you were talking about the generations and the ancestors, I probably am one of the first, I guess, generation that really took on a meditation practice for many, many years. I think that the meditation practice and the awareness practice, and [00:15:00] also reading books and getting really influenced by people like Eckhart Tolle and,
Oshikha: Mm-hmm.
Michelle: um, I think it's shifted and changed kind of the neuroplasticity of my brain.
But my point was is that in so doing, I feel like in some weird way it's healed my mom So I don't know. It kind of goes to that, that energetic of... Because she's alive and my grandmother has since passed, but I, you know, y- you- we don't know if we're also healing them. Like, we could be healing their energies, their spirits by healing ourselves
Oshikha: Um I just feel called to share, so I'll share. So in 2022, I went for my ayahuasca journey. I knew about [00:16:00] ayahuasca since a very long time, but I somehow felt that, oh, this was not for me. But I told you about those phases when I was meditating for three, three hours, and then some- something whispered in my ear and, and I just Googled and I found, like, a shaman traveling to Ireland, and I went for my ceremony.
And in my ceremony, I saw me, my mother, and my daughter, one. And by the time, I wasn't pregnant or anything, and I felt s- movement in my womb, and it felt a lot of clearing and healing. A few years ago, I did my past life regression, and I saw that my mother was my daughter. And now when I sit with my own daughter, and she's this wise woman for a two-and-a-half-year-old.
So she's definitely not my daughter. She is some ancestor coming back to me. So who... How do we know even? With so much in the [00:17:00] unseen and so much in the spiritual realm, we have become said modern, and we have forgotten that what the ancestors were talking about was, in fact, spiritual science, right? So is your mother your mother? I don't know,
Michelle: Yeah, that's a good question.
Oshikha: I don't know. But are you healing your generations in this current moment? I would say so. I would say so because they are alive in your body. There are these surges or there are certain dreams that I have right now, and I for sure know these are not my dreams. I know that this is some ancestor who wants me to do this.
And the life that I'm living right now, this is not my dream life. I never imagined myself talking about conscious conception, helping women heal their traumas and aligning their body, th- all of this. No. I was happy in my tech job, [00:18:00] earning money and just enjoying going to work and being
Michelle: Yeah.
Oshikha: So who i- who am I?
I don't know. But am I carrying my ancestors in my blood and body? For sure.
Michelle: Yeah.
It's, you know-
Oshikha: through me? Yes. Yes, please go ahead. Yeah.
Michelle: Yeah, no. The-- as soon as you said that, I was thinking about the Maharishi effect. You've, you've studied about this, right? The, the, there's a research... There's actually a research paper on this. Maharishi was an incredible guru who brought meditation to the West, right? I mean, he was like one of the first that I believe that, uh, The Beatles went to see him, and so he, he was really like the, the guru that got the attention of the West.
And so he brought a lot of the wisdom of the Veda traditions to the West, and he had predicted this before they even did the study. He predicted, he brought in tra- transcendental meditation,
Oshikha: [00:19:00] Hmm.
Michelle: and he predicted if you gather many people together in a group and have them all meditate at the same exact time, you will create peace in the world.
So, and I'm gonna mention this to you for you to perhaps think about, uh, unless you already thought about this. So he... Later on, they did a study, and they actually saw, they s- they measured all of the terrorist attacks, all of the crime, like all of these different things that were happening around this area where they, I believe it was 1,400 people they brought together to meditate together to do transcendental meditation.
And they measured and saw a significant decrease in crime, a, a, a decrease in, um, in terrorism, all kinds of things that were happening. And so when you're talking about how you [00:20:00] shifting your consciousness can actually impact other consciousness, we're talking about collective. We're talking about massive scale of consciousness shifting and changing.
And so whatever you're doing really with your own consciousness can literally shift the consciousness of the world. So then I, I've thought about this with my group,
The Fertility Effect, and we've done group meditations on really bringing in the fertility and conception and the healing on that aspect, kind of like channeling it a little bit more in that direction.
But I think it's just, there's something really special about that, coming together as a collective.
Oshikha: 100%. So just for your listeners, I would love to tap into what you just said, how it happens, right? A lot of people think, "Oh, what are they even talking about?" You see, we all are electromagnetic beings. There are machines which can capture your aura. They can, um, measure your frequency. So [00:21:00] if you go to a party and if you see your good friend, even from, uh, 10, 20 feet of distance, you can feel their love.
You are excited to go meet them. And if somebody is jealous of you or is sending you negativity, you can feel it. And if you're unable to feel it, uh, please do some work, okay? Because
Michelle: It's true.
Oshikha: there is, this intuitive intelligence in your body which can sense that frequency, right? So if you are in happy, relaxed, calm state, you are vibrating at a higher frequency.
If you are stressed, you have chronic pain or whatever, you are vibrating at a low frequency. But when you meditate, when you open your healing centers, when you activate your chakras, when you relax, slowly, slowly you are elevating your own frequency and vibrating at a higher plane. And again, this is no good or bad.
We are not judging. We are just talking about how it works. And now, if I am sitting in a
Michelle: It's more [00:22:00] coherent
Oshikha: And it is easier then to actual-actually elevate your state as well. And from the point of conception, if you and your partner, you meditate in the zero trimester, which Ayurveda and all of these ancient texts deeply focus on, that rather than just jumping that, "Oh, I'm ovulating, let's have sex to create a child," why not you give a 90-day to s- whatever time you have, a minimum of three months for sure, and then you meditate, you release your stress, you keep on, you know, increasing your vibration so that your body becomes this actually high-vibrating temple where a divine soul can come and take home in your womb.
So this is the concept of conscious conception, where I release all of my trauma, pain, anxiety, [00:23:00] grief, whatever hardship, breakup, stress that I'm carrying, I release it by certain practices, and then I uplift my energy, and that's the kind of baby that I will call in. Because I'm actually switching my genes.
And now, obviously, epigenetics is talking about this, that how you can reprogram your genes, right? And your genes are being impacted by your thoughts, your food, your lifestyle, the content you are watching, and this bloody phone that you are obsessed with. Throw it out if you are on your fertility path. So all of this is actually affecting.
It is... Yeah, it is mind-blowing. And
Michelle: It is
Oshikha: yes, for you and me, it is easy to understand. For us, it is basic, you know, that we talk about it. But I think there is this collective which is slowly understanding and, uh, and it is not for everyone because, uh, it's not that we are gatekeeping, but it is your own karmic [00:24:00] path, Michelle, that brings you here.
Um,
Michelle: That's true. That's true. That's a big-- But I feel like, um, we all can relate because when you were talking about the high frequency and you were saying that the low frequency isn't necessarily bad, um, I've kind of figured out a way to describe it that keeps it neutral.
Anything in nature can be coherent or it can be chaotic.
You know, in physics they say entropy and then they kind of co- talk about the coherence. And so anything chaotic is going to be low vibration because nature's always gonna want the thriving, um, ones to survive, and it's always gonna be picking the more thriving, um, branch and trees, and you even see fruits when they start to mold, they'll start to-- that'll spread, you know, into those areas, and the mold by itself self-destructs.
So anything that's in- [00:25:00] incoherent is going to self-destruct. It's going to take down the level of vitality. Why? Because nature always wants the vitality aspect of all of nature to win, because that's how nature continues, and it's just selective. That's just the way it is, and it's a very neutral way. So you're going to have the same thing with people.
You're gonna have people that vibrate on a very coherent level, and then you're gonna have people that vibrate incoherent. Um, um, maybe they'll do things that are a little more destructive because they're vibrating on an incoherent state and they're not seeing their own benefit to benefit themselves.
They're looking at other people to get energy. You know, it, it is what it is, kind of like, um, not good or bad. It, it is what it is. But ultimately, that coherence is always going to want to...
You know, nature's always gon- gonna favor that coherence. Oh, yes. My point is, is that when you do increase your coherence and your vibration, just like you said, you're gonna start to be boring [00:26:00] to the people that are incoherent, so they're not gonna even wanna be around you. So that protects you in a sense.
Oshikha: Yeah, and obviously when you, um, raise your vibration, anything and everything which is not aligned, the nature will start cutting it off from your environment. And you might-- you yourself will not enjoy the company of people who are not, uh, at the same vibration. Again, there's no good and bad. It just picks the same tune, like you radio frequency, right?
Uh, so all the listeners who enjoy a certain kind of music will be at a sa- particular radio station. So it's just that.
Michelle: Yeah
Oshikha: But at the same time, when it comes to pregnancy, um, you can literally design your child
Michelle: Hmm
Oshikha: We start focusing on the supplements and the tracking and the ovulation and, um, the entire industry. [00:27:00] Uh, my ancestors must be laughing that we talk about fertility as an industry, but it is an industry, right? And it is thriving on your fear. It is thriving on the tick-tock of the clock. Uh, it is thriving on your lack of confidence in your own body, right?
So they are-- they don't thrive on someone who's confident and will say that, "Hey, listen, I know that my body is, was born with fertility juices, and it will produce a baby," right? Um, but
Michelle: I love that you're saying this
Oshikha: yeah, this is what happens because the ones who are confident, right, they know. They will go. Because my doctor also said to me that, "Hey, your, uh, sizes are not changing.
This is not working. No worries. If nothing works out, we will go for IVF." And they say it so casually.
Michelle: Yes
Oshikha: And because there is a power dynamics when you step into that room, because you think that they are [00:28:00] gods and they know everything, and you are this, uh, victim who doesn't know what to do. In that same moment, you are getting programmed by them
Michelle: Hmm.
Oshikha: Your subconscious is getting affected in that room because they are presenting you with an option. Again, there's no, um, hate towards
IVF. It
Michelle: Yeah, No
judgment. Yeah
Oshikha: It is beautiful, but you need to understand that your body needs to support it. It is not a magic wand that, oh,
Michelle: For some people, IVF is a miracle,
but it's not for everybody. And, and so I 100%, I, I think that, and I, I get that that's what you're saying. It's not that it's bad, it's just that you have to go in alignment, right? It has to be aligned. If it's aligned for you, it's perfect. But if it's coming from a place of fear, different story[00:29:00]
Oshikha: 100%. And if there was a guarantee that, okay, in this cycle I get pregnant, then for sure. And right now, your body is not ready. You have not done anything. If you are preparing your body and then going for IVF, A plus B, then for sure it will equal to be C or whatever you are trying to design. But if your body, and you are, you are in chronic stress, your body is inflamed, there is so much issue, there's so much of stress and fear and whatnot, and then you add IVF on it, you and me, we know what the result would be.
Your body has to be, you know, ready to do the work, right? It has-- There's no pressure on it. It is divine alignment. We are talking about a soul coming on this planet. It is more sacred than we can ever think or anything on this planet, right? So if you have this calling [00:30:00] or you know that you are a spiritual being, that there's a spirit in your physical body, then, um, then, yeah, just think about it, right?
Just from a... Yeah. Uh, just I want to finish this thought that just from a tiny egg and sperm, your body is creating an entire being. It is so intelligent. So if you give it the healing protocol, if you allow it to thrive, it will do the job. Yeah.
Michelle: Yeah, for sure. I was gonna say that I, I have seen people's body shut down from IVF, and they'll start out yielding some, and then they, they go back to back to back and their body's literally shut down. And then they take a little break and it kinda comes back, but it's like the body's saying, "No." The body's like putting a stop, and it's crazy to actually witness, but you're like, "Whoa, the, [00:31:00] the body doesn't want this right now."
Oshikha: Yeah
It is s-sad. Uh, yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I have, um, nothing to, um, add to it because I deeply know that if you start listening to the body, it is telling you, right? And your nervous system, as you know, you talk about the polyvagal theory and, um, we all talk about the same thing, that your reproductive system is not different from your nervous system.
Your nervous system is controlling your reproductive system, right? So yeah, just it's basics.
Michelle: It is. It's so, it's so intuitive if you really think about it. And you were saying, in the beginning you were saying how if you really become intuitive or you get into your intuition, you will get moved and called and guided [00:32:00] by the spirit baby. Uh, I really thought that was very profound because I see that with my patients.
I see that with the people I work with. I see it. Uh, I see that when they ask for the guidance, they get very distinct signs and typically, um, it'll be so obvious that regardless of the outcome and the like the months of period, period, period, period, and they keep telling me, "But the signs are so real. I know it's real."
They start to really invite it in, and then they get pregnant. It happens in its divine timing, and sometimes so divine that it even comes, um, on the numbers of the signs that they get, the date
Oshikha: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it is magical, right? It is just beautiful. It is just beautiful. And our grandmothers, our ancestors, they knew all of it. And actually, [00:33:00] our ancestors used to prepare consciously for pregnancy. And when I say ancestors, I don't mean the past 100, 200 years. Uh, Garb Upanishad, which is this ancient text from India, it talks clearly about how men and women, they used to prepare for conception.
They used to heal their bodies. They used to be that embodied state and call in their divine child, right? See, when you start living in coherence, that you were saying, when there is this brain and heart coherence, a lot of times what I have realized that me and my husband say, for example, we become stressed because we are doing, constantly doing around the house, around the baby, around our life, and if there's slight amount of stress.
But if I just sit in meditation and I'm just healing this heart space, and I'm just sending him also a little bit of my love through my energy, I will see a shift in him as well
Michelle: [00:34:00] Yes
Oshikha: It is all your own inner state, your own faith, how much you believe in what you are capable of, right? I know so many women who are 40 years old, 45 years old, and they get pregnant easily because nobody was able to shake their belief system.
They are so confident. So it just mirrors whatever you believe in. And you can shift your beliefs, you can shift your thought pattern. So rather than if I have to believe in something, I rather believe that I will get pregnant rather than, no, I cannot get pregnant. Because I myself was in that state, Michelle, for some time where because the doctors were saying certain things, one day I came to my husband and I was like, "Oh, this is not changing."
And then he said something to me. He's like, "Don't, don't stress about it. We will adopt." And I looked at him, and I [00:35:00] said that, "This body will produce a baby. I will stop listening to anyone
Michelle: You had certainty
Oshikha: Yeah. Because why should I listen to someone who doesn't know me, doesn't know where I come from, doesn't know my value system?
I remember here in Ireland, I went to my GP, and I was telling them that I'm g- I'm planning a home birth, and then they looked at me, and they thought that I was crazy, and then they said they had an elective C-section. That moment itself, I was so happy because this person doesn't have the same understanding as me.
They chose elective sec- C-section, so it means that our value systems are very, very different
Michelle: Mm-hmm.
Oshikha: So that itself is like clear distinction that sure, I respect whatever you're saying, but because you are a different-- you have not experienced life like me, so just listen to what your body is saying. Because a lot of these women who are going into those clinics, they know that they don't want this [00:36:00] path,
Michelle: Mm-hmm.
Oshikha: but somehow they don't know better
Michelle: Yes, it's true. How can people-- Like if somebody really wants to, you know, based on what you're saying, they really want to connect with their wisdom, and I know that it could be very hard because like when you go through times where you feel so disconnected from yourself, you wanna come back to yourself, but you feel so disconnected because it's almost like there's a charge.
You know, when Eckhart Tolle talks about the pain body, there's a charge that happens. There's a charge with fear, and there's a charge with doubt. Those things can really suck us in, and sometimes it's very difficult to kinda come back to ourselves and, and they feel... You know, when people say the word like, "I feel lost," they're-- It's really true.
It c- it's a very good way to describe that feeling. I mean, I've been there in different times of my life. I know what that feels like to [00:37:00] feel very lost. And then I know also what you were saying when you have like moments with your husband and then you need to kinda come back to yourself. For me personally, I, I get into my body.
I feel the sensations. It, it, it kinda anchor-- Like I find an anchor, you know, sometimes a breath or some kind of anchor. So what would you say to somebody who says like, "I, how do I get back to myself? How do I get back into my intuition, and how can I start to listen to my body or hear my body's communication?"
Oshikha: It's beautiful question, and here I would just step into my coach. I'll wear my coach hat, and I'll just say that a lot of times I was in this deep, dark phase that I couldn't even see an ounce of light. I would say work with someone who has been where you are. Because you see, Michelle, we as women, we never lived in so much of [00:38:00] isolation that we do today.
Even your eggs live in community. Even your eggs
Michelle: That's true.
Oshikha: right? And we need to be witnessed in our pain. We need to be witnessed in our suffering. So many times I have clients who will be like, "Oh, whatever you said is not new to me, but because you s- you said it, I'm accepting it."
Michelle: That's true
Oshikha: We need mirrors.
Michelle: permission. Yeah, you need that. It's true
Oshikha: Yes. And a lot of times we need to be in a system where we can be accountable for our actions, accountable for he- our healing. Every now and then, even I go to retreats, circles, containers where I will step out as a new version. Either I have this strong transformative determination in my own self, right?
What you and me now we are talking about, because we [00:39:00] have worked on it for ages, for years, and that's how you can come back to your breath, right?
But were you able to come back to your breath
Michelle: No, at the time, no. I was so stuck on whatever it was that I was focusing on
Oshikha: And when I am going to a doctor or a healer or whatever medicine, when I get some kind of physical wound, then when I'm emotionally suffering, then why don't I need help? I need help.
Michelle: Right
Oshikha: And that help or change happens when the community that you're talking about comes and breathes together, meditates together, releases together, creates this awareness that these are my triggers.
But it is fine because there are five other women who are carrying the same trigger. They're carrying the same pain. And if this woman can work through her pain, can work through her trauma, and is doing what daily inner work is needed, then I can also do the same. So this is the power of collective healing.
And [00:40:00] if you are stuck or lost, sister, you need to find your own tribe who can support you and push you out of this so that you can go into this propelled container of healing and coming out of it
Michelle: Mm-hmm.
Oshikha: Is at least what I do,
you
Michelle: Yeah
Oshikha: Yeah, my body needs, you know, a sister to hug me, to listen to me, or just be present with me, uh, if not anything.
And I have this beautiful relationship with my partner. He's this amazing man. But men and women are different.
Michelle: Yes, very
Oshikha: have the same emotional capacity or
capability. That's why you have a womb, right? Your energy center. Um, so yes, our partners are amazing, and we are in this divine union with them. But at the [00:41:00] same time, a woman needs another woman,
Michelle: This is so true. It really is true. Let's talk about actually, uh, I, I don't know what your thoughts are on this, but you know, the second chakra, the creative center, you
know, it, it's just, it's the womb. It's w- it's the creative center, but it's also, you know, it embodies a spiritual personality as well. It's, it's a, it's not just an area where it has life.
It's not just that by itself. It also has an energetic frequency of its own that is connected to its own vibration, and it's connected to creativity. And in order to be creative, you, you can't be critical because I know for myself, of course, I studied art and I've done art. If I have my mind being too analytical and judging my [00:42:00] work, then I can't be free to create.
And then I think to myself, what happens when we're on the fertility journey? We go straight into the lab numbers, we get analytical, and so h- how can that impact, you know, the energetics of creativity physically? What are your thoughts on that?
Oshikha: Your sacral, your Swadhisthana chakra, right? And the, all the chakra points are along your spine. Obviously, when we show it, uh, we show the front part of the body, but the sacral is around your pelvis, your womb, right? Your womb waters. So basically, your sacral chakra is a representation of your emotions, and emotions are connected to the water.
And hence, um, your baby's also in your emotional waters, your womb waters. Um, and that means fluidity, movement, dance, expression, the painting behind you, right? And it all comes from this energetic seat, which is the [00:43:00] power of creation, mother, Shakti, embodiment of your feminine power. It is a portal of creation.
So even if you are birthing a business, you are birthing a relationship, you're birthing something creative, a painting, a dance school, a child, you have to be in this coherent state with your womb, with your sacral, the six-petaled lotus. And six is the energy of the Venus, the feminine planet, right? It sits right in your womb center.
And because if you look at the biological diagram of your jaw and your pelvis, it is a, you know, just mirror image of each other. So women who shut down their voice, their truth, their grief, it is ig- just impacting your womb. And because you were alive in your grandmother's [00:44:00] womb, you are carrying all of that, um, creativity from them, right?
Um- And the part of that, uh, analytical part that you are talking about, that's our masculine side, right? Which is needed. Which is
needed. A divine being or the balanced human is someone who can have their, uh, masculine and feminine balanced. I would like to add something here. My very dear, uh, beautiful relative gave me her, um, leftover ovulation sticks, you know, and I wasn't, uh, preparing, and I had it in my cupboard.
Never did I use any ovulation stick. Never. How can I put a ticker time bomb on this process that I'm creating? How can it be rushed? When you are making love, do you put a timer that, "Oh, I [00:45:00] just have 10 minutes, and I need to get out of it." Right?
Michelle: Yeah, Yeah, No, 100%.
Oshikha: you are enjoying, you are creating, you are moving, you are in rhythm, you are in your feminine self.
So, get up every day, dress like a goddess, dress like this divine being that you are. Move your body. Develop a relationship with your bleed. Understand that it is magical, potent substance full of stem cells. It took patriarchy to shame our body, to shame our blood, and every cycle you, uh, have, you become this divine being who was not just releasing this potent blood out of you, but you can release anything while you are bleeding.
Mm. So, it is a remembrance coming back to the womb space, healing the womb space, and just aligning the sacral, the [00:46:00] Swadhisthana. Um, it just brings me so much of joy talking about this, Michelle.
Michelle: love it. I love listening to you
Oshikha: yeah. Um, and the goddess lives there. Every woman has the pot- is, uh, a dormant goddess, and it is within you how to activate her in you.
Yeah.
Michelle: I love that so much. I knew that you were gonna have a good answer, that's why I intuitively felt called to ask you. But I definitely feel like you are so connected, and I, I think that you, you work alongside the divine, the feminine. She's working through you, with you, beside you. I feel it
Oshikha: I am nobody. Um, I have just surrendered the life to the mission. Um, and there's so much of suffering already, right? [00:47:00] Um, we are given birth pills from the time we are turning 16, and then, um, there is so much happening, which is just pushing our fertility juices. And people think that fertility is pregnancy.
No. Fertility is rejuvenation of this energy which is in your body, which is capable of ensuring that the entire cosmos can run with your power. I have this guru, and whenever I go to him with any question, um, he's a elder man, and then he bows down and he says that, "You know, I'm afraid of women because women have so much potential and
power." So there will be a day when millions of us walk again, because there was a time on the planet where matriarchy was the way of life. It will come back. It is coming back. It is [00:48:00] rising.
Michelle: Well, yeah,
Oshikha: yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Michelle: I think that that was, if you ask me, and I, I don't know that I've ever really said this here on the podcast. I believe that one of the reasons why energetically we're seeing so many challenges with fertility is because we're really in a very strong, yang, you know, dominant energetics, and it's sometimes we need to go back into the receptive, which is the female.
And we are going there. We're getting there. I think we're awakening to that I really believe it
Oshikha: Yeah, and just certain trust and surrender has to come back, right? Um, we-- I always wanted to become my mother's son because in India, um, it still now is that you need to have a son. [00:49:00] Uh, I is, I am the eldest daughter, and I always wanted to become my mother's son. I was competing with boys at school and, you know, doing cool things.
I was riding a bike. I was solo traveling, you know. Um, and there are dreams and desires that, oh, especially as an Indian, that you should have a certain kind of a job. So I was doing every one of those things, only to one day realize that this current state that we are living in is designed by men for men, you know?
I am not that nine-to-five, 24-hour
person,
Michelle: We're the, we're the moon, the, the 30-day
Oshikha: Yeah. Yeah. They are the sun, we are the moon. That's why we have the womb, the emotional center that you're talking about. So slowly and steadily it will rise, uh, for sure. But when it comes to pregnancy, uh, we need to know that we have the [00:50:00] power to heal this incoherent state, whether it is any kind of imbalance in the womb, um, any chronic stress, inflammation.
Your body has the capability to heal all of this and come into your feminine receptive state and then conceive whatever you're trying to conceive. Yeah.
Michelle: Yes, 100%. And this is just probably one of my favorite episodes, I have to say. I really enjoy this conversation because I also feel like you see similar things that I see. We're connecting to, I think, maybe an acknowledgement of the divine, that there is some other energy that is feeding really all things.
And I, I recognize in you that you see what I see when it comes to that divine and kind of really that [00:51:00] allowing that divine to really pull our work and to speak through us and to guide us and to inspire us. And I know that, uh, people are probably blown away by your energy right now. If people wanna find you, work with you, what offerings do you have and how can they find you?
Oshikha: They will find me when they are guided to find me. I always tell all of my clients that, you know, it is again some kind of karmic bond, karmic, um, contract that people come to you, Michelle, or they work with me because we are actually talking about healing so much of pain and then calling your baby. It is sacred, it is divine, it is a blessing.
So, um, coming back to your question, I'm sure, uh, we will share the Instagram handle somewhere, so you can just find
Michelle: Yes. [00:52:00] I'll put everything in the episode notes
Oshikha: Um, yeah, I do, uh, group containers where we work, uh, for six week. We work, uh, aligning your physical body, detoxing it, providing it the right fertility nutrition according to Ayurveda, and then working through inner childhood healing, conscious connected breathwork, journaling, rewiring.
It's like a whole system that I have created and I've been working since, uh, past four years on this. Um, at the same time, I do collective in-person breathwork sessions where we call in the ancestral energy and do a lot of, um, healing, whatever the divine allows. Uh, so yeah, I'm just creating as, as the mother is guiding, and I'm just enjoying this process, to be very, very honest.
Um, yeah, I do one-on-one work and I do, um, group cohorts, uh, depending upon wherever the client is in their journey. Yeah.
Michelle: [00:53:00] I, Oshika, this is, um, definitely a very divine connection. I felt, uh, an energy when we were speaking, and I typically do feel like that with a certain vibration, I guess frequency, um, mental state, uh, consciousness. I don't even know what word... There's really no words to describe it. Like, it's hard to describe it.
I am on a talk, uh, platform, but it's kinda hard to put it into words. So, but I feel like people do feel that vibration. Yes, they can hear you talk, but I think that they can also connect with where you're taking them, and I, I feel like there's this profound depth in how you describe fertility and how you describe consciousness, and really conscious fertility and bringing in an element of sacredness into that conception, which I think is just really...
I, I feel like people are thirsting for. So I think this conversation, I should even have you [00:54:00] come back another time 'cause I feel like we can keep talking and talking. But, uh, but thank you so much. Really, thank you so much for coming on today. It was such a pleasure getting to know you
Oshikha: Thank you. It was a blessing. Thank you