Ep 366 The Parasite Conversation No One’s Having (But Should Be)

Written By Michelle Oravitz

In this eye-opening episode of The Wholesome Fertility Podcast, Michelle sits down with Kim Rogers, also known as “The Worm Queen,” to have the parasite conversation no one’s having but absolutely should.

A seasoned Western medicine professional turned holistic wellness educator, Kim shares her journey from battling endometriosis, mold toxicity, and Lyme disease to founding RogersHood Apothecary and developing the viral ParaFy Parasite Cleanse Kit.

Together, Michelle and Kim dive into the hidden world of parasites, mold, and heavy metals, and how these often-overlooked culprits could be affecting your digestion, mood, skin, and even fertility. You’ll learn how exposure happens, why binders and biofilm-busting herbs are key, and when cleansing is safe and beneficial, especially if you’re trying to conceive or preparing for IVF.

If you’ve ever felt unwell despite “normal” labs, this episode will change how you see your body’s internal ecosystem and empower you to take charge of your health from the inside out.

Key Takeaways: 

  • Discover how hidden parasites and toxins could be silently impacting your fertility, mood, and digestion.

  • Learn why “cleaning your soil” may be the missing piece in your preconception or IVF journey.

  • Find out the surprising everyday sources of parasites, from pets to produce, and how to protect yourself.

  • Understand why binders and biofilm-busting herbs are essential for safe and effective detoxing.

  • Hear how Kim’s viral ParaFy cleanse is helping thousands reclaim their energy, clarity, and overall wellness.

Guest Bio:

Kim Rogers is a seasoned wellness professional with over 20 years of experience in Western medicine. After facing her own health challenges including endometriosis, parasites, Lyme disease, and mold poisoning, Kim transitioned from pharmaceuticals to natural healing. She co-founded RogersHood Apothecary in 2021, where she now serves as CEO and creator of the globally recognized ParaFy Parasite Cleanse Kit.

Her viral success on TikTok and Instagram brought global attention to parasite cleansing and holistic detoxification. Through transparency and education, Kim continues to inspire millions to take control of their health and become their own advocates. She also hosts the podcast What’s Eating U?!, where she explores the intersections of wellness, environmental toxins, and personal empowerment.

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  • # TWF: EP 366 Kim Rogers

    Michelle: [00:00:00] Episode number 366 of the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. Welcome to the Wholesome Fertility Podcast. I'm your host, Michelle Orbitz, and today I'm joined by Kim Rogers, AKA, the worm queen, a veteran of western medicine turned natural wellness educator and CEO of Rogers Hood apothecary. After navigating endometriosis, parasites, lime, and mold.

    Kim created the viral parasite cleanse, and now teaches millions how cleaning the soil, which is addressing parasites, mold, candida, and heavy metals can shift stubborn symptoms from digestion and skin to mood and fertility. We'll break down what parasites actually are, how exposure happens, and why binders and biofilm busting herbs matter and when it's appropriate to cleanse or not cleanse, especially if you're.

    Trying to conceive or doing IVF if your labs look normal, but you still [00:01:00] feel like something else is going on, this episode is for you.

    Welcome to the podcast, Kim.

    Kim: Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here and to chat about all of this.

    Michelle: Yes. I'm so excited to have you. This is really the first of its kind of this conversation, and I'm super excited. When I saw your information, I was like, wow, this is actually. I think information that a lot of people need to know about, including me, I'm excited to learn. So before we get started, I always like to start with an origin story, like how you got into this work and really how you discovered it in your own journey.

    Kim: Well, I don't know if [00:02:00] I would say I got into it. I think I was told by the universe that this is what I was meant to do, and so

    Michelle: I.

    love those kinds because they're always good.

    Kim: The navigating of it, you're like, really? Like even this morning because so for some of you guys that don't know who I am, my name is Kim Rogers and I'm known online as the Worm Queen, and I hold that title very dear to my heart. I've made merch around it, like it's really a fun title. Such a yucky subject that people don't really want to talk about.

    But I'm happy to talk about it. I'm one of those people that at the dinner party that if you don't wanna hear it, you should leave. 'cause I'm gonna say it no matter what.

    Michelle: I love it.

    Kim: I've always been that way and now it's just worse. 'cause I talk about worms all day, right? Like I talk about poop and worms and it.

    Poop is really not my favorite topic to talk about. However, it does go hand in hand with the worms. So you know, it's like you kind of have to take the good with the bad. Alright, so [00:03:00] I went viral on TikTok in 2021 and I went a viral over a parasite cleanse, and that's why I was known. That's why I'm known as the Worm Queen.

    My community over there crowned me the Worm Queen, so that. I could go forward with something fun for a gross and an under talked about topic and Western medicine doesn't talk about it. And shockingly enough over the last few years, the wellness community doesn't talk about this either, and they don't understand that in order for our actual wellness.

    To happen. You need to clean your soil. And cleaning your soil means you really need to do parasite cleansing and mold cleansing and get in there and really clean the soil out. And I'm gonna go over why on this podcast. It's so important to clean your soil. And if you don't do that, how sometimes it can be a waste of time and it can also really not.

    Do a service for you, you're thinking you're doing [00:04:00] all the right things. And in reality there's just like a few things you really have to do in order to make your health go to the next level. And that's what I found out when I was on my journey. So I come from Western medicine, I am a Western medicine refugee, is what we kind of been jokingly talking about it with.

    I've been in it since 2004. I hold two healthcare degrees. I ran 25 medical colleges. I was a professor. I've authored medical books. I've served on advisory boards. I've written national certifications. I worked in the emergency room. I did insurance. So I really have been very well-rounded in Western medicine versus just.

    Going viral on TikTok. I just happened to go viral on TikTok on something that I really could speak about 'cause it has to do with the human body. So I've been doing that since 2019 and my own health declined rapidly in 2019, and I [00:05:00] set us up so that I could go out to our recreational property to either say goodbye or to figure out what was wrong with my body.

    And that's what we did. So in 2019, we headed out to a piece of recreational property to build a log home. And when I got out there, I was doing a pretty good job. I felt a little bit better. I got away from the stress. I started navigating with mushrooms and really getting off of my big pharma me. But I still wasn't at an optimal level in 2021 than I wanted to be.

    I wasn't pooping regularly, which is a huge concern for myself. And actually, you should be concerned too, if you're not pooping on a regular basis, it means something's going on internally. My skin was a wreck and I have really great skin, and so I really wanted to know what else was going on, and I was on TikTok.

    I had a small account that I was teaching people how to build a log home and grow mushrooms. So I had around 10,000 [00:06:00] followers. I did a cleanse because I came across the gal's video that said I almost unli myself over worms, and it stopped me in my tracks and I thought, you know. It's possible, like it's possible that a lot of my symptoms are because I could have parasites.

    I flare during the full moon, and I have a lot of the issues that she was talking about, specifically mental health issues. So I ordered what she was talking about, and within three days I saw roundworm, flukes, and pinworms in the toilet, and I didn't even have to dig. They literally were just sitting on the top of the water just pointing at me basically like, girl, this has been your problem for decades.

    And I have done this every day since then. I have talked about parasites 1,488 days in a row. I've never taken a day off.

    Michelle: That's

    Kim: important. Mm-hmm.

    Michelle: Oh, big time. Important. I have so many questions [00:07:00] already. Wow. That's crazy. Okay, so. How do people get parasites besides like, is it raw foods? Like what is it?

    Kim: It's all of that. It's raw foods. Your pets, I would say a hundred percent of pet owners that have never de-worm themselves, have worms from their dogs. I had the same worms as my dogs, but I also had a parasite from the water. So water is a way to get a parasite and not just a parasite. So let me give you the definitions of what parasites are.

    The definition of the umbrella word parasite is anything that feeds off a host and in Latin terms, an unwanted dinner guest. So you have an umbrella.

    Michelle: You make, you make me laugh.

    Kim: See, you gotta like, it's serious, but you gotta

    Michelle: No, I know, I know.

    Kim: What are we gonna say here? And be

    Michelle: I know. It's serious, but It's just, yeah.

    Kim: It's serious. Like you just have to go.

    It's so serious, like pointing and like seriousness. [00:08:00] So if you look at then what happens underneath the parasites, there's lots of different words. There's protozoa, which is a parasite that's microscopic, that's usually found in the water. So I had Cryptosporidium parm, which is parvo, which on a live puppies, and my husband had D fried G leaves.

    Which is a sister to Giardia. We all know what Giardia is. We've heard it. When you have a water break at your house, you have to boil your water. They're just afraid you're gonna catch a parasite, right? And that they don't have good testing. So they can't give you a guarantee that in fact you didn't catch it from the water break.

    So. That's where we caught some of our parasites. But then there's nematodes and nematodes are physical worms, roundworm, tape worm, whipworm pin worms, all of the physical worms. And our country doesn't test our water for nematodes. And those are the physical worms. We had nematodes in our water and hoodsport, and it's a [00:09:00] well that services.

    Thousands of people in that community. And I've also tested my water here in Seattle and tested positive for nematodes too. And as I've done dug down deeper, I find out our country doesn't actually test for physical worms in our water and they only test for protozoas. So now that everybody understands the difference, there is a significant difference in the two types of parasites.

    That you would do a parasite cleanse for? Right. We're not trying. My paras purify is not for lice and scabies. It is helpful, but that's also under the word parasites, but they're in their own definition. So now that everybody kind of has an understanding of what the differences, it really does help when you're.

    Thinking about where you can catch a parasite. So a lot of dogs will go out and they'll lick everything, and then they have microscopic parasites that can go onto you and absorb into your skin when you let them lick on you, [00:10:00] or if they're laying with you. It really is a thing. I had the same parasites as my dogs.

    My dogs head worms. I deworm them, but I never deworm myself.

    Michelle: Wow. That's crazy. That's true. It's, true. We always focus on that.

    Kim: it's really a crazy thought process that we are so concerned about our pets, you know? Another place that you can catch a parasite is salmon and sushi,

    Michelle: Mm-hmm.

    Kim: raw meat, raw produce.

    Michelle: So salmon, raw salmon, or also cooked. If it's not cooked enough, maybe if it's undercooked.

    Kim: So the salmon still has it inside. It's just if it you cook it, it becomes dead.

    Michelle: Okay.

    Kim: salmon can hold up to 10,000 parasite eggs in one square inch of its body.

    Michelle: My God. Wow.

    Kim: The closer to the belly of the cut of the salmon, the more parasites. I live in Seattle and I have gone down and interviewed the people at Pike Market, which is [00:11:00] like

    the famous fish market. And when I talked with them about this, they looked at me like I was crazy because I said so. Tell me which fish have parasites And they go, well, all of 'em. They all have worms. It's natural. And I'm like, oh god. Good thing I got that on tape.

    Because everyone seems to think that this is not a real thing, that you could catch a parasite from fish or seafood.

    Michelle: I think people are in a denial. They just don't want to know. I think that that's what

    Kim: I'm

    Michelle: it's like I don't wanna know about it. If I don't see it, it doesn't exist. That's funny.

    Kim: it. So, you know, those are like really simple ways that you can catch something like this. And then the problem is that after you catch it, it doesn't always become active, right? So we can lay [00:12:00] dormant in your body and then all of a sudden something happens in your life that's very stressful and they feed off of low frequencies and bam, all of a sudden.

    Now you are sick and you have no idea why, and it's because you're continuously eating a parasite. Or say you go to Mexico. I mean, everyone goes, don't be drinking the water in Mexico. I don't drink the water in the United States.

    Michelle: Yeah,

    Kim: I don't like.

    Michelle: neither. Another top one, or no?

    Kim: Yeah, I don't eat raw produce in the United States because it's washed with our water. I don't use ice in the United States. Like, I'm pretty strict with those things since I've done a lot of cleansing and I just know

    Michelle: know too much.

    Kim: I do. It's so unfortunate. 'cause salmon's my favorite, like

    Michelle: Yeah. So I'm guessing you're not eating any raw fish anytime soon.

    Kim: No, no, no, no, I'm not. But you know, the funny thing about the word salmon is that it's actually my niece's last name. [00:13:00]

    Michelle: Is It really?

    Kim: It is, and I'm allergic to salmon. I've had my hair tested and it came back that I'm allergic to salmon. I'm like, well, that's because I have a negative frequency when I say salmon now, so it's auto.

    I'm allergic to salmon. My niece's last name is salmon, and on a daily basis I talk shit about salmon. The matrix is cruel.

    Michelle: You are so funny. I look, this is really funny. It's,

    it really is. Now. Now It's true. The f there is a frequency. it's a real thing.

    Kim: thing. Frequencies

    Michelle: see the parasite eggs, we, we, we can't see the actual parasites, but the eggs, we can't see the frequency, but you know, we feel it for sure.

    Kim: Well, we're frequency, right? So basically what I did when I realized that after I went viral on TikTok and I went viral over my own parasite cleanse, not para, I actually started my business a few months after, which. Just for [00:14:00] viewers to hear this and the community to hear this. I was still very ill when I went viral.

    It wasn't like all of a sudden I went viral and bam, I'm in, like I'm in this, I'm in the health I'm in today. You know, like it really was. I had parasites and then I found out we were living in mold in the middle of all of this. And then in 2023, I, I found out I had chronic end stages of Lyme, and that's what was like my uphill battle.

    But I started a company over all of this because of the fact that I was spending all day long talking about other people's product, how you should take a parasite cleanse with a candida cleanse and a heavy metal cleanse because they all hang out together. And so as I was. Doing all of the things while I was going viral, and when I say I was going viral, it wasn't a little viral, it was a million people watched my one video in two hours and it shut my account down.

    It shut my phone down. It overheated my phone. And then in, and [00:15:00] since all of this time, that video has had 10 million views. My account used to get 40 to 50 million views a month. So it was like a million to 2 million views a day until TikTok smartened up. And anytime you say parasite, it's totally censored now.

    So, but we have a million followers across all of. Our platforms, and we also now have a 10,000 square foot manufacturing facility and 40 team members that help make the purify cleanse among other cleanses that we now make because we really are an environmental toxin cleanse company that shows you how to get rid of parasites, mold, and, and assists with Lyme.

    So everything that's affected me, I've just, I made a business over it.

    Michelle: But you're helping people, which is amazing. This is what I always say, that's like completely aligned purpose when you know, you take something that you have gone through and then you're not only helping yourself, but you're helping others. But I think that that's when it really has an [00:16:00] impact.

    And of course, it's a passion because you know what you went through.

    Kim: Yeah. Yeah. I was not a fan of parasites in my real life before this though. I left the urgent care 'cause I had to treat parasites and I'm like, I'm out. I'm out.

    Michelle: It's very poetic how, how how things happen. Yeah. And so tell us some of the things, some of the symptoms that people can have from Para. It's 'cause people can have it and not realize that they have anything. What are some of the things that are red flags or, and you can also mention, you know, you went through endometriosis as well, which a lot of listeners have gone through.

    Kim: So some of my symptoms of endo happened to be parasites, molden, Lyme, just, I'm just gonna put it out there. I had a hysterectomy when I was 29 years old. I had five surgeries prior to the hysterectomy, and then I had five surgeries after the hysterectomy. Total amount of surgeries I've had due to [00:17:00] endometriosis.

    Has been 13 and in 2019, I was told after my last surgery that I could no longer have surgeries and that this is the way I was gonna have to live in pain, bloated, uncomfortable, not pooping, and just trying to regulate my daily pain. And that to me is not acceptable. And so that's really what made me dig in even more.

    And now looking back in all the research that I've done, I can't believe that these things were not brought to my attention. It's been 20 years. I'm 47 years old, so it's not like this was something that was really common back then to talk about, and that's why I'm so passionate about it. It's really upsetting that our western medicine countries don't understand that someone needs to clean their soil first before they do a life altering surgery or a life altering event. I was on chemo twice. It damaged my bones, it damaged my body. It didn't stop the endo from growing. And every time I would watch a surgery [00:18:00] or I would look at pictures, I always thought, this looks really suspicious.

    And when I went to my doctors and said that, they just gaslit me and I would research, but like at what point, even with the amount of knowledge I have, and when I say that I'm smart, it's not. Because I'm trying to have a big ego. I literally was valedictorian over two medical degrees. I'm really smart. So when I went to my doctors and I said, Hey, like this just doesn't look right.

    Like, could you explain this to me? And they're not able to explain it for a few reasons. Once they just don't know. And it's not their fault

    they're reading a

    Michelle: just not in the system.

    Kim: That's right. That's right. Their indoctrination did not allow them to speak about it. Right. And then their malpractice fear does not allow them to go outside of the box.

    So it's my job.

    Michelle: Yeah.

    Kim: Out. It's the truth. It's the truth. And I know because I was a licensed medical specialist, I worked in the field and I went out of the box [00:19:00] all the time. I actually let my license go so that I could speak about this even more. So I went viral in July and I let my license go in September because I knew that if I came out the way, I knew I was gonna come out with this, that it wasn't gonna be something that I could like defend with a license anymore.

    You know? And so I think that. Looking at all of this, and me actually being a part of Western medicine, writing, education, academia, all of those things played a huge part in having a better understanding that people that are not in the medical world, they really don't have any idea. And so it's really important for you as a human to be able to advocate for yourself, to be able to have sovereignty over your own body.

    And I think 2020 really taught that. To people, and I feel like that's another reason why I know this is my destiny because everyone was in lockdown in 21. Everyone was looking for [00:20:00] what is a way that they can take sovereignty over their health and figure it out with doing something natural. And that's.

    That's what I talk about every day. I don't just talk about parasites. I literally now show everybody everything I've done to heal my body. I have podcasts over it. I literally want the, the world to be in a, in a wellness space versus we're constantly reacting to our health. Now that we know that our culture does not talk about parasites, mold, it is important for us.

    As a society to talk about it. And so even if you're looking at it in a different lens, it still is gonna happen to you whether you think that you can catch a parasite or not. Everybody has parasites, in my opinion.

    Michelle: It's almost like environmental toxins. It's just like it's there

    Kim: It's an

    Michelle: you know, we're poor as beings, so at one point or another we can't [00:21:00] get away from it. So we have to be proactive.

    Kim: That's right. That's right. You have to be, and now that we know this, I mean, this is what I do every day, honestly. I do one to three hours of podcasting a day. And then in the mornings I run a business to, to make sure everybody is aware of what this movement is. And then I do my podcasting. And then in the afternoon I do content around all of this because it's so important that if you think that you've got IBS, you're grinding your teeth, your skin is a wreck, your labs come back normal.

    You don't feel like yourself. You can't reconnect with your intuition. You're constantly depressed, you're constantly anxious. It's because you potentially have a parasite. I mean, you look at just, I do videos about 21 signs, like you've got reoccurring yeast infections. You have bv, well, you have candida, and candida is a parasite.

    [00:22:00] Candida is a, is a yeast in our body that overgrows and controls your mind telling you to eat sugar because that's what it feeds off of. So that takes it to a next step. Can parasites control your mind? Absolutely. Parasites control your mind and mold brainwashes you. And if you think about that in a live frequency, they're alive in our body and they hijack our nervous system.

    They get into our lymphatic system, and then they cause our brain gut to not connect. And your gut is your brain

    they need.

    Michelle: system. They, yep. So it's a it. Yeah, That's a microbiome can really impact your brain. So it would make sense. Totally. That parasites would as well.

    Kim: And then you bring in the other aspect of the heavy metals and the heavy metals weight them down. Well, we're, we're exposed every day to heavy metals. I'm looking at my water. It's in glass right? [00:23:00] But it's got this on top of it. Okay. Okay, well this is just life. Do you think that maybe there might be something that could seep in at some point when you've got like, so I can't avoid it, but what I can do is I can cleanse it, I can assist my body, assist my organs by using herbs to go in and direct what needs to be pushed where.

    And that's all I did with the purify kit. When I realized after going viral one that the company that I was talking about at the time would not disclose transparency about what's in their product. I realized that this is actually a thing with most companies. I said, what are the natural ingredients that you have on the back of your.

    Is this lab? Are you soaking your herbs? And they're like, well, we can't disclose that. That's patent. And I'm like, what do you mean? You can't tell me why there's color? You know, there's [00:24:00] coloring inside of your tincture. I didn't like that. I didn't like that at all. So I created my own, and I'm very transparent.

    Michelle: I love that, so, so talk to us about what you did actually create in these cleanses. Like what do they do? How long does it work?

    Kim: So it's a 30 day cleanse, and I recommend anybody that has infertility issues, that has reproductive problems to actually go in and do a para parasite cleanse. I. Look back now, I have no regrets, but I do look back and think if I was able to have done this, would I have needed a hysterectomy? And the answer really is no.

    I've also had a lot of people that have infertility issues, done my kit and actually have babies. I can name three people right now that I sent kids to personally, and they have 1-year-old boys. I don't know what it was, but that year happened to be a lot of boys and so.[00:25:00]

    Michelle: And you wouldn't recommend doing this as you're trying to conceive, you would say, do this, pause and then try after?

    Kim: Yeah, because Wormwood dictates the fact that like it can push out any sort of what they think could be a toxin. That's what the herb does. And so I don't recommend that if someone is actively trying or is on IVF to actually do a parasite cleanse. But if you're pausing and you know that you're gonna go for it, then you should be cleaning your soil.

    You should get in there because once your body relieves. Itself of something that it's already living with, right? Because these are living things in our bodies. They're physical living beings in our bodies. So once it re gets rid of that, it can get itself prepared to have another positive living thing living inside of your body, taking your nutrients.

    So. Parasites can take up to 90% of our nutrients, and that's why people that have [00:26:00] hookworm have anemia. That's why people that have a tapeworm are skinny or are totally overweight and cannot lose weight no matter what, because it's stealing the nutrients that your body needs. It's acting like your body, but your physical body, your physical being, is not getting those nutrients.

    So now it's suffering. Multiple different places are no longer getting the a hundred percent energy that it needs in order to operate, and it's relying now on another team member inside. Right? So it's really an unfortunate thing when you do have a parasite and that's why we all end up being somewhat chronically ill.

    Because of that. So if you look at that in a hole when you're trying to get pregnant and you're having a problem, why not give it a try? Like get in there and clean your soil. Get in there and make sure that what you're doing is gonna stick in. One, you're not wasting money. I mean, you're gonna take all these supplements and do all these things, but if you are physical body is not getting what it's needed.

    It's a waste.[00:27:00]

    Michelle: A hundred percent. And talk also about like mold toxicity. 'cause that's something that I think a lot of people don't really know, like. It, It's kind of like people have heard about it, but they don't really know what it is and what it does, and those, there's different types of mold. I know this is more specific to like toxic black mold but I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

    Kim: It's actually all mold. It's not just black mold, so multiple different molds that get into your body. So I have 11 active molds. My body, I've researched mold a lot. So I went viral in 21, and then in 2022 I found out that we were living in black mold in our travel trailer while we were building our log home.

    And when I found that out, I moved us out immediately. And it wasn't just black mold that tried to unli us, it was green mold, which is called cladosporium. I had like. Cryptosporidium and then I had cladosporium. I'm like really, again, playing on the words universe. [00:28:00] So I ended up finding out that specific molds that accumulate inside of your body end up causing you to feel a certain way.

    So green mold was at a high toxic level in my body. Even though green mold normally doesn't unlive people like black mold will. But when it pairs with other molds, it will create an ecosystem storm in your body and your cells absorb mold. So if you cut yourself in half and you looked at yourself, it would look just like the wall, right?

    It would be clusters of mold and it would be growing. And that's what happens in our cells. And then it pushes ourselves out of the way because the colonization of the mold has to be in there. And so it pushes those cells out and those cells are needed. Our red blood cells are needed, and it can grow inside of those, our white blood cells.

    So the cells need the energy and the mold is taking [00:29:00] that energy, and then you get parasites. Most people that have mold end up having parasites, and most people that have mold poisoning end up testing positive for Lyme.

    Michelle: That's crazy. And So you know, if you think about like. Mushrooms and fungus. I mean, it is kind of related. Is there any kind of connection with that, like, or does it help and, you know, certain types of mushrooms help?

    Kim: So mushrooms are a positive frequency and mold is a low vibrational frequency and were made of frequencies. So all I did when I created all of this and when I realized mushrooms were great, is that you look at the frequency of that herb and what the frequency of that ailment is, and so you realize that we're made of frequencies and light.

    And so when you're bringing in certain medications, synthetic driven, it's just a frequency to target that ailment. That's all this is. Right? [00:30:00] So I think people, oh, we take it and it absorbs and it goes to all places, but you're absorbing a frequency. And so I think it's hard 'cause we've never really been taught this type of medicine before.

    We just think of a of a as a physical thing. But if you think about

    Michelle: But the physical things, a reflection of that.

    Kim: Yes, yes. Like when an opera singer gets her voice to the same frequency of a glass and it can shatter, that's a frequency. And so if you find out, like I realize that mushroom frequencies and wormwood frequencies and organ grapefruit, those are all positive frequencies.

    And so when you put them into your body, they're gonna snuff out the negative ailments that are being caused, you know?

    Michelle: Yeah. it's kind of similar to you know, a soil based, a spore based probiotics because they create an environment that doesn't allow the bad bacteria to grow, so it kind of [00:31:00] creates a different pH. So It's almost like a police, you know, a police, but a good police, you know, that takes care of your body and kind of make sure that everything's run well and, and like, bad.

    Opportunistic. Either mold or bacteria, it just doesn't proliferate. So Yeah. It's a defender. That's good. It's policing what it needs to do. Right. It's, that's so good. It's defending, it's like, yo, man, I'm up in here. I don't have time. Like I am going to protect. I'm gonna break down and I'm gonna protect 'cause that's what you brought me into do. Right. So. If you look at everything that you put on your body and in your body and the things that you are doing, they all have frequency.

    Kim: So it's a, it's really the best way to simplify what medicine is.

    Michelle: And so the para cleanse, is it, is.

    that

    Kim: Yeah, it's called paray?

    and [00:32:00] it's a parasite cleanse that's 30 days. It's three tinctures and a binder. And it's everything that I learned over the last well in that, in that time when I created it. We've never changed our parasite cleanse 'cause that's how good it is. This is the original. We've never changed the recipe.

    When I went viral in July of 2021, I started the company in December. So in that timeframe, I studied all night, I researched everything. I read every comment in my, in my dms and and on my videos. And at that point I was making videos like. Three or four a day, and I was doing it so that I could gain the knowledge from people that were watching it.

    And they would go into the comments and they would tell me what they use, what they do, how they do it. And one of the things that was amiss for me was a binder on the first couple of cleanses I did. I come from the emergency room, I come from Western medicine. We don't use charcoal or clay. We use charcoal in the emergency room [00:33:00] though when someone comes in overdosing or with alcohol poisoning, and we use it in a large amount, but in Herb world we use it at a microdose.

    So I realized that one of the biggest things that I was missing and why things were coming out of my skin and in my mouth and like I was peeing them out is 'cause I wasn't binding.

    Michelle: Okay, so explain that. I have a very, very smart audience And they love to really educate themselves, which typically that's what they have to do because they're not really getting their answers elsewhere. so I'd love for, for that to be broken down. Like what's the difference between having a binder, what is it, and also what the herbs do, and why you need the, you know, the two together.

    Kim: So our binder is called Cinnamon and I chose sea lawn, cinnamon and coconut activated charcoal. We all know those words, right? So Sealon cinnamon helps with mold spores. So when you are deworming, you're dropping whatever's [00:34:00] inside of their body. If you have physical worms and when you're breaking down microscopic, it's also could be dropping viruses, bacteria, mold, spores, other parasites.

    So you have to come in with herbs that are synergistically, going to help remove those things while they're getting dumped in your body. So. You might not have ever tested positive for Epstein-Barr virus, but you might have had a worm that was holding that virus like I did, and then all of a sudden you do a cleanse and it dumps it because you didn't have an herb in there to push it out and also to bind it.

    So a binder is a negatively charged herb that attacks and mag magnetizes a positively charged toxin. So it's a magnet. So when you are cleansing, specifically with purify, you're doing candida, parasites, bad bacteria, and viruses and heavy metals. You are going in and you're removing potentially a physical body that's gonna dump that.

    And then once it's in your body, you have to bind it and push [00:35:00] it out, or your body is gonna try and reabsorb it. So you're basically boosting

    Michelle: This is why people feel sick, because you're, you're basically taking something that was dormant, kind of sitting underneath, you know, behind, and then you're bringing it out. You're kinda activating it. So while you're activating it, you need to attach and remove it rather than circulate it, which a lot of toxins detox.

    Detox is used to do, or certain detoxes without binders in general, or even like cleanses that people did.

    Kim: Yeah. That's what I did to myself. That's what my husband did. We just took one tincture. We just took an anti-parasitic tincture and that was it. Well, I got heavy metals coming out. It gave me candida, had 'em coming out my skin, like they were, we did a fulvic soak. They came out my feet like it was, it was really like, oh my God.

    How does, why do people do this? Right. Why are people putting themselves through this? Well, I did feel better, [00:36:00] but the amount of detoxing I did because I wasn't doing it right. And one of the biggest things you have to do, even after a massage, I mean, as a simple massage, you should bind because of the fact that here, I'll give you guys a real quick anatomy and physiology lesson, and it's because of the.

    You'll have an understanding of the lymphatic system and why you need to bind. So our lymphatic system doesn't have a sphincter. It doesn't have a pump, and it's our sewer system. So the sewer system is under our body. And when you get something, even like a massage or you get on a vibration plate, you've just knocked loose, like you said, something that could be dormant.

    You just knocked it loose and it's like, well, where do I go? Oh, this place looks really great to go to. I'm gonna go ahead and attach myself here and cause an another problem. But if you do that and then you bind the binder, comes in like a police officer and says, yeah, no, get, get out. Go. It's gonna bind [00:37:00] itself and move itself out, right?

    That's the job of the charcoal and that's the job of the cinnamon. The cinnamon helps with inflammation, and inflammation is mucus. And mucus is where they live. They live in a biofilm. They meaning mold. Parasites, candida. They live in a hardened shell, so you gotta break the shell. And those are all of the things that I had to learn.

    And then I incorporated that into the Paray Parasite Cleanse kit. Yeah, so because no one has biofilm busters in their, their cleanses, right? So even if you go to like Paraguard, which a lot of people know what Paraguard is, it's 30 bucks on Amazon. It's what I went viral over, but it doesn't have a biofilm.

    Herb in it that breaks the biofilm, and so you are just going in and cleaning out some of the stuff that's literally just floating around. That's not the purpose of a cleanse. The purpose of a cleanse is to get down and dirty and police and get [00:38:00] all these things out, but you gotta break down their house.

    You gotta burn it down in order to expose them.

    Michelle: Yeah. And also have you heard of like zeolite or bentonite clay? What are your thoughts on those?

    Kim: They're great binders. Zeolite can be taken with anything, and it, it's a good binder. Fulvic is a great binder and it can be taken with anything. And in fact, we're working on, well, we have a fulvic soak, so you can actually soak your feet in a fulvic soak that we have. And I had worms swim out of the bottom of my feet when I did a fulvic soak.

    I know, I know, man. I went viral over so many gross things. I'm like, listen, I'm already in the thick of it. The world knows that I had weren't.

    Michelle: is so funny.

    Kim: I'm going for it. You know, so

    Michelle: totally.

    Kim: we're, and then I'm gonna, I'm gonna let everyone else have the opportunity to buy, buy what I'm talking about, because Fulvic is great.

    It's really a, a great mineral that fulvic ic [00:39:00] we need in our bodies to help our mitochondria and to really help bind out toxins and heavy metals. So in fact, next year I'm

    Michelle: comes,

    from Sheila G, right?

    Kim: That's one of the places Uhhuh, the fulvic that we use is a peat moss, and it's just dirt. Fulvic is just dirt.

    That's it. So there's ways that they will create things like Sheila gt, but fulvic itself is just peat moss that comes from dirt. But the peat moss absorbs the nutrients that our dirt needs. So if you go and you do a fulvic. Foot soak. And then when you're done with that water, if you go dump that on your plants, they're going to grow exponentially and it's gonna be wild how fast they grow.

    So growers for all sorts of growing use fulvic to help their plants grow, but it detoxes our bodies.

    Michelle: Right. Amazing. And just FYI if you guys do wanna get information, the link is in the episode notes and [00:40:00] we, I do have a, a coupon code as well.

    Kim: Nice

    Michelle: Very cool. So some, so you have the purify kit, you have the fulvic acid. What else do you guys offer? And, and also the purify kit helps with mold.

    Kim: So we actually have a mold kit. So all of the environmental toxin kits that we have, our first one is purify. That's the old G. That's the one we've had for four years,

    but. In May, I developed the lymph kit, LYMF. It helps move your lymphatic and it helps with your three Ps. Your three Ps are ping, pooping and perspiring, and I use the lymph kit every day, and so you can actually use the lymph kit two weeks prior to the purify kit and then you continue to take it while on the purify parasite cleanse and it helps keep your pathways open.

    Michelle: So it's safe to take daily, it's like

    fine.

    Kim: It's your wellness bestie. [00:41:00] Now, instead of a cleanse, it's a wellness kit, so you literally can wake up in the mornings and you can take lymph holy skull and sustain, and what those

    Michelle: Except for pregnancy, correct? Like, yeah.

    Kim: We don't recommend anybody taking anything while pregnant, breastfeeding under the age of three.

    And that has to do with the herbs on chemo meds or on blood thinners. Wormwood a blood thinner and organ grapefruit. Continue your blood. And so if you're already on that, then you don't want to do the two things. We also have in my link, in my profile or in your show notes, I have a link. Hello Pharmacist.

    So if you're ever wondering about can I take my meds with these herbs, not just our herbs, any herbs, that's the website to go to, and they love us. I mean, I've sent millions of people over there. We, we've had, you know, we've sold over 250,000 kits worldwide in four years. So they love us because we're constantly telling people like, I can't give you medical advice.

    I'm just here to talk about [00:42:00] herbs.

    Michelle: Yeah.

    That's great. That's really, really good information. Amazing. Wow, there's so, so much. I'm trying to think of what else. What else do I have any other questions? So is there something that people should be considering when they're taking the cleanse? Do they need to drink extra water? Is there anything that they need to do while they're taking it or kind of keep in mind?

    Kim: So in the show notes, my link tree will be there and in my link tree I have five free eBooks. Everything I do is free. You can email my team anytime. You can utilize these books. With my cleanse or without. So one of the books is Fast Track Guide. It's like 10 to 15 pages and it tells you how to get ready.

    I have a cookbook that right now is a no meat based cookbook, but over the last few years I've done a lot of research and you should have. Some meat protein while cleansing, but this will assist you in getting ideas. It's like 123 pages [00:43:00] at Christmas This year, we'll have a meat protein-based cookbook that is approved for parasite cleansing, and I also have a book that is for drainage pathways to open up your drainage pathways.

    And then there's a book. That is a parasite identification ebook that if you're looking and you're wondering what's in the toilet, you can either send us pictures and I will help identify it. Or you can look in this 600 page book. 'cause I have around 25,000 pictures on my phone that I get sent every day.

    Yeah, it's wild.

    Michelle: That's, that's so crazy. Very, very interesting. I mean, really, really fascinating information. And I'm actually excited because you guys were like, generous enough to send me a kit as Well, so I'm excited to start it. So, wow. So how can people find you I know you'd mentioned a couple of different ways, but how can people find you if they're interested in learning more?

    Kim: Well, you can Google me, Kim Rogers Worm Queen. You can find me. [00:44:00] I know. This is why I have a crown. Like even right up there, like people send me crowns. It's so funny. It's just such a, it's such a fun name. I have it on all my merch anyway, so you can find me by googling me that way. Or you can go to my social media accounts, Mrs.

    Rogers Hood. M-R-S-R-O-G-E-R-S-H-O-O-D. On Instagram, there's a dot after Rogers and Hood. Someone has the whole name put together, I feel for her dms, and then you can find my website, rogers hood.com. My podcast is called What's Eating You with the Letter U. That's on YouTube as well as all streaming platforms.

    So I'm pretty much everywhere. If you just type in Worm Queen, I'm sure I'm gonna pop up somewhere.

    Michelle: Oh, awesome. Well, Kim, this is such a great and fun and funny episode, but really like amazingly important too, and great information. I think that a lot of people [00:45:00] would not even consider thinking about this. So I really thank you for bringing this up and kind of sharing your amazing information. So thank you so much for coming on today.

    Kim: thanks for having me.

    Michelle: Awesome stuff.



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